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[18:09:10] <Dan York 2> Operational guidance and help along these lines could certainly be helpful
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[18:10:49] <Jason Weil> Chairs Slides discussion just ended and I'm now scribing :)
[18:11:13] <Jason Weil> v6ops-design-choices presentation
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[18:11:39] <Victor Kuarsingh> we shall see..
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[18:11:50] <Jason Weil> I guess that means I should be on meetecho
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[18:12:20] <Victor Kuarsingh> don't think so.   I can see the jabber conversation (so It appears)
[18:12:29] <LeeHoward@lightwitch.org> http://international.conf.meetecho.com/meetecho/login.jsp?ietf=v6ops
[18:13:03] <Jason Weil> yell if your mic button doesn't work Victor
[18:13:26] <Victor Kuarsingh> sure will.  
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[18:13:46] <Dan York 2> Victor Kuarsingh: As far as I can see, this session is NOT doing the mic queue experiments that have been done in other sessions.
[18:14:11] <Victor Kuarsingh> well, then I guess I will need to channel via Jason
[18:14:30] <Jason Weil> @DanY: does that mean it won't work?
[18:14:32] <Dan York 2> If it was, you'd have a "Hand" icon up near your name and there would be a fourth icon on the right side.
[18:14:39] <Dan York 2> jason - correct
[18:14:51] <Victor Kuarsingh> I was going to try and do the next slide, but we should inform Phil so we can do that slide
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[18:15:14] <Dan York 2> All the "Mic" button does at the bottom of the Meetecho window is enter "Mic:" into the embedded jabber chat window
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[18:15:37] <Meetecho> Dan York 2: yep that's its purpose :)
[18:15:46] <Meetecho> the mic and hum buttons are shortcuts for Jabber
[18:16:13] <Jason Weil> slide 6
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[18:18:58] <Jason Weil> MicharlAb@mic
[18:19:00] <Victor Kuarsingh> dictionary : un·num·bered ˌənˈnəmbərd/Submit adjective 1. not marked with or assigned a number.
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[18:19:15] <Victor Kuarsingh> Jason - channel that if you can
[18:19:28] <Jason Weil> sure
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[18:20:29] <Andrew Yourtchenko> +1 to what Mikael says. #2 sounds like the most correct.
[18:20:48] <Andrew Yourtchenko> "non-link-local-only" is the converse of "link-local-only" :)
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[18:21:17] <becarpenter> and "non-non-link-local-only" is...
[18:21:26] <Victor Kuarsingh> I would just remind folks that the english defines unnumbered means "we did not mark or assign an address" per dictionary
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[18:22:49] <Victor Kuarsingh> if we use #2, then we miss the use case of IPv6-off or error condition
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[18:24:01] <Tore Anderson via MeetEcho> It is quite possible to "administratively number" a link-local interface on an interface
[18:24:14] <Jason Weil> Lorenzo@mic on other language support...
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[18:25:37] <Dan York 2> Hum yes
[18:25:49] <Victor Kuarsingh> Hum yes :)
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[18:26:14] <Jason Weil> pmtud-ecmp-problem draft
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[18:30:37] <Jason Weil> hums yes
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[18:31:24] <Jason Weil> IPv6 Deployment in India with MAP-T presentation  
[18:32:16] <Jason Weil> slide 3
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[18:33:44] <Jason Weil> slide 4
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[18:35:17] <Jason Weil> slide 5
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[18:35:57] <Jason Weil> slide 6
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[18:36:36] <Jason Weil> slide 7
[18:37:24] <Jason Weil> Jan@mic
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[18:39:41] <Jason Weil> slide 9 - end of slides
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[18:39:56] <Dan York 2> I think it's great that she brought this information here
[18:39:58] <Jason Weil> PhilM@mic
[18:40:08] <Dan York 2> (not a mic referral)
[18:40:37] <Jason Weil> JPNE MPA-E Deployment presentation
[18:40:46] <Jason Weil> MAP-E
[18:41:12] <Jason Weil> slide 2
[18:41:32] <Jason Weil> slide 3
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[18:42:37] <LeeHoward@lightwitch.org> Thanks, Dan.  I want to ask at the end of the session if these presentations were useful.
[18:43:09] <Jason Weil> slide 4
[18:43:32] <Jason Weil> slide 5
[18:44:12] <Jason Weil> slide 7 - I'm slow
[18:44:19] <Gabriel Castro> hummmmm
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[18:45:54] <Jason Weil> slide 8
[18:46:08] <LeeHoward@lightwitch.org> I just noticed, slide # 240b::7
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[18:48:15] <BillC> --- 240b::7 ping6 statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
[18:48:25] <Jason Weil> I tried too lol
[18:49:19] <Jason Weil> slide 240b::9 (slide v6 transition phase)
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[18:52:12] <Jason Weil> slide 240b::10
[18:52:39] <Jason Weil> slide 240b::11
[18:53:00] <Jason Weil> slide 240b::12
[18:53:28] <Mukom> anyone has a link for the slides?
[18:53:38] <Jason Weil> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/92/slides/slides-92-v6ops-2.pdf
[18:53:52] <Dan York 2> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-v6ops-2.pdf
[18:53:56] <Dan York 2> Ha
[18:54:12] Dan York 2 will leave that to Jason in the future
[18:54:31] <Jason Weil> different links though
[18:55:01] <Jason Weil> slide 204b::14
[18:55:07] <Dan York 2> Interesting - I got my link from https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/materials.html
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[18:55:53] <Jason Weil> slide 240b::15
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[19:00:10] <Jason Weil> Lorenzo@mic and away from mic
[19:00:53] <Jason Weil> Ole@mic kinda
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[19:03:06] <Jason Weil> slide 240b::17
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[19:03:29] <Jason Weil> slide ::19
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[19:04:56] <Jason Weil> slide ::20
[19:05:24] <Jason Weil> Ole@mic
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[19:07:22] <Jason Weil> Lorenzo@mic
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[19:08:59] <Jason Weil> slide ::21
[19:09:44] <Jason Weil> slide ::22
[19:10:18] <Jason Weil> slide ::23
[19:11:00] <BillC> did blue sheets get stuck someplace?
[19:11:11] <Jason Weil> slide ::24
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[19:11:28] <Jason Weil> one is back with Fred. other is out on the floor
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[19:11:47] <Dan York 2> Great question
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[19:14:02] <Jason Weil> slide ::26
[19:14:30] <Jason Weil> slide ::27
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[19:15:51] <Jason Weil> MAP-T and MAP-E in CERNET and China Telecom presentation
[19:15:56] <Jason Weil> slide 2
[19:16:00] <Jason Weil> slide 3
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[19:19:39] <Jason Weil> Ian@mic
[19:20:22] <Jason Weil> Find and Replace all Jan@mic with Ian@mic. sorry Ian
[19:20:32] <Jason Weil> slide 5
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[19:23:33] <Jason Weil> slide 7
[19:24:18] <Jason Weil> slide 8
[19:25:01] <ida leung> The trial is for MAP-T?
[19:25:16] <ida leung> oops
[19:25:28] <ida leung> ignore it
[19:26:03] <Jason Weil> slide 9
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[19:27:18] <Jason Weil> Supita@mic
[19:28:48] <Jason Weil> MattM@mic
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[19:30:07] <ida leung> good question
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[19:31:15] <Andrew Yourtchenko> mic: by "switch" you mean both CPE and BR sides can receive either -E or -T, but the decition on what to do with sending packet is per-packet ?
[19:31:33] <Dan York 2> Hum yes useful
[19:32:15] <Jason Weil> presenter is no longer up Andrew. still want me to ask?
[19:32:20] <Tore Anderson via MeetEcho> Andrew: That's how I understood it, fwiw
[19:32:48] <ida leung> Yes, please ask
[19:32:55] <Andrew Yourtchenko> Jason: nah, don't worry. seems like a nontrivial lag from Meetecho web interface - I'll ping the presenter offline.
[19:33:27] <Meetecho> Andrew Yourtchenko: are you using one of the passive streams to listen or WebRTC?
[19:33:33] <Meetecho> are you getting a huge delay?
[19:33:57] <Andrew Yourtchenko> yeah took about 30 seconds after pressing the "enter" until I got the question appear in the window
[19:34:23] <Dan Wing> time traveling, Andrew.
[19:34:24] <Jason Weil> GeoffH@mic
[19:35:39] <Andrew Yourtchenko> @Dan: alas, the uninteresting direction!
[19:35:51] <Jason Weil> Lorenzo@mic
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[19:44:47] <Nathalie Trenaman> agreed with Lorenzo
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[19:48:51] <Jason Weil> ending 12min early
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