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joel jaeggli has set the subject to: v6ops IETF 85 thursday 1300 EST
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[13:01:59] <Gary Gapinski> No audio yet
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[13:02:41] <Carsten Strotmann> audio is working for me
[13:03:07] <Gary Gapinski> I have no audio on telephone or meetecho
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[13:03:23] <Carsten Strotmann> I use VLC on http://nagasaki.bogus.com:8000/stream07
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[13:03:28] Dan York has set the subject to: v6ops IETF 89
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[13:05:06] <Tobia Castaldi> hi gary
[13:05:16] <Tobia Castaldi> give me one second...
[13:05:27] <Tobia Castaldi> i'm enabling the pstn bridge
[13:05:33] <Gary Gapinski> thx
[13:06:53] <Tobia Castaldi> try now
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[13:07:46] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Balanced Security for IPv6 
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[13:08:20] <Lee Howard> Eric Vyncke presenting
[13:08:56] <Lee Howard> Slide "status"
[13:08:56] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Status
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[13:09:01] <Lee Howard> oh, you got this
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[13:09:52] <Tobia Castaldi> yes, if you want I'm scribing in this meetecho session  http://www.meetecho.com/ietf89/v6ops
[13:10:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Changes in -01
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[13:10:48] <Gary Gapinski> audio OK now on PSTN and Meetecho Flash
[13:11:02] <Tobia Castaldi> perfect!
[13:11:49] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Watering Down
[13:12:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Added Flexibility
[13:12:26] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Last Word of Caution
[13:12:37] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: Comments from a Reviewer
[13:14:15] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: Next Steps?
[13:17:01] <pusateri> John Brzozowski at the mic
[13:17:32] <pusateri> Dave Thaler at the mic
[13:18:23] <pusateri> John Brzozowski speaking
[13:18:50] <pusateri> Dave Thaler speaking
[13:19:55] <Lee Howard> Marc Blanchet speaking
[13:20:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Presentation stopped
[13:21:43] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 1: Recommendations of
[13:21:59] <pusateri> Bing Liu speaking
[13:22:00] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 2: To restate the scope of the draft
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[13:24:18] <Paolo Saviano> Current presenter: Bing Liu
[13:24:19] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 2: To restate the scope of the draft
[13:25:33] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 3: Question to the WG
[13:26:13] <Victor Kuarsingh> comment: as per list, I think we should not use word "recommend", guidance seems better.  Also, we should present ULA deployment examples based on real use cases (that have been used)
[13:27:00] <pusateri> Tim Chown was just speaking
[13:27:18] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 4: Application of the recommended use cases
[13:29:13] <Lee Howard> Erik Kline speaking
[13:29:28] <Victor Kuarsingh> comment: DOCSIS
[13:29:36] <Lee Howard> Lorenzo Colitti speaking: never seen an isolated network
[13:31:23] <Lee Howard> Philip Mathews at the mic
[13:31:33] <Victor Kuarsingh> DOCSIS is example of isolated endpoints which do not need to talk to outside world.  It's on common IP infrastructure
[13:32:07] <Lee Howard> Victor, you want me to relay those comments?
[13:32:12] <Lee Howard> Chris Liljenstolpe speaking
[13:33:35] <Lee Howard> relayed
[13:33:40] <Victor Kuarsingh> thanks Lee
[13:34:17] <Lee Howard> don't know who is speaking
[13:34:20] <Victor Kuarsingh> np
[13:34:37] <Dave Thaler> Alex Petrescu at mic
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[13:35:42] <pusateri> Lorenzo Colitti speaking
[13:35:50] <pusateri> Fred Baker asked question
[13:35:56] <pusateri> Lorenzo responded
[13:35:58] <Lee Howard> Jan Zorz
[13:36:11] <Lee Howard> Žorž
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[13:36:42] <Dave Thaler> we could write a document on "Guidance for ULA Usage in IETF Engineer Homes"
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[13:36:57] <pusateri> Fred Baker asked question
[13:37:08] <Carsten Strotmann> I use ULA + GUA in my network for some years now, no issues
[13:37:19] <Carsten Strotmann> same reason Jan just described
[13:37:25] <pusateri> Lorenzo again
[13:37:25] <Lee Howard> Jan has used a ULA in anger, when his ISP was down but he needed to reach his printer
[13:37:39] <pusateri> Alex again
[13:37:47] <Lee Howard> Alex Petrescu and Lorenzo, back and forth
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[13:38:55] <Lee Howard> Joel Jaeggli: YOu're ratholing.  Move on.
[13:39:29] <Lee Howard> ?
[13:39:43] <pusateri> Tim Chown
[13:39:53] <Lee Howard> Tim Chown:  ULA Anonymous, "I'm Tim, and I've used ULA."
[13:40:26] <Lee Howard> Brad Reither?  Some IP phones don't understand multiple addresses, choose ULA instead of GUA
[13:41:29] <pusateri> Mike Ackerman?
[13:41:31] <Lee Howard> Mike Ackerman: this is helpful, thanks.
[13:42:24] <pusateri> Bing Liu speaking
[13:43:58] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 5: • Used as NAT64 prefixes:
[13:45:15] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 6: Updates since last meeting-1
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[13:46:59] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 7: Updates since last meeting-2
[13:48:06] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 8: Comments?
[13:49:57] <Lee Howard> Dave Thaler speaking
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[13:51:16] <Carsten Strotmann> I just tested ULA anycast for DNS today, works. I plan to write a blog about it
[13:51:56] <Carsten Strotmann> (anycast resolver, not authoritative)
[13:53:00] <Carsten Strotmann> mic: I just tested ULA anycast for DNS  (anycast resolver, not authoritative).  I plan to write a blog about it.
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[13:59:42] <Lee Howard> Erik Kline speaking now
[13:59:51] <Lee Howard> sorry for missing a couple of speakers
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[14:02:20] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 4: Application of the recommended use cases
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[14:03:17] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 8: Comments?
[14:03:23] <Lee Howard> me at the mike
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[14:04:57] <Lee Howard> Lorenzo Colitti
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[14:11:12] <Lee Howard> I gotta take a break, bbiam
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[14:13:18] <Paolo Saviano> Presentation stopped
[14:13:31] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 1: DHCPv6/SLAAC
[14:13:33] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 2: Relevant Drafts
[14:13:52] <Paolo Saviano> Current presenter: Bing Liu
[14:13:53] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 2: Relevant Drafts
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[14:15:22] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 3: Problems summary
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[14:16:06] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 4: Basic Guidelines
[14:18:47] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 5: Guidance for DHCPv6-only Deployment
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[14:21:16] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 6: Guidance for SLAAC-only deployment
[14:22:18] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 7: Guidance for co-exist deployment
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[14:26:09] <pusateri> Erik Nordmarke at the Mic
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[14:40:23] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 8: Regarding the implementation guide draft
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[14:46:18] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 4: Basic Guidelines
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[14:55:22] <Paolo Saviano> Slide 2: Relevant Drafts
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[14:57:49] <karen.seo> Thank you to the jabber scribe
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[14:58:13] <Paolo Saviano> Meetecho Session is over, thanks to all!
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