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[19:04:47] ipv6 cpe router presentation [19:05:15] tsavo_work@jabber.org/Meebo joins the room [19:05:37] levigner joins the room [19:05:38] correction -- rogue ra presentation [19:05:52] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/v6ops-3.pdf [19:06:14] slide "changes since -01" [19:06:24] moving forward slide [19:06:35] ((ref draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-guard-01 )) [19:07:54] ((Sorry, ref draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chown-v6ops-rogue-ra-02 )) [19:07:56] narten joins the room [19:08:50] now cpe router presentation [19:09:11] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/v6ops-1.ppt [19:10:05] ruri joins the room [19:10:23] chairs working on getting right presentation up ... [19:10:30] iljitsch joins the room [19:11:06] agenda slide ... [19:11:09] ((ref draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-router-03)) [19:11:29] summary of discussion at last ietf slide ... [19:11:44] raj joins the room [19:12:12] arifumi joins the room [19:13:07] "important issues" slide [19:13:17] markkao joins the room [19:14:18] fdupont joins the room [19:15:34] hide.zebra joins the room [19:15:44] assuming remote jabber viewers also have audio ... [19:17:10] nm joins the room [19:21:40] maureen.stillman joins the room [19:25:19] Fred Baker leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [19:25:19] Fred Baker joins the room [19:30:27] hta joins the room [19:32:26] VMware etc don't need any routing [19:32:49] just bridge the virtual stuff to the physical interface, there's plenty of addresses to be had there, no problems there. [19:39:06] (Fred moves to assume we can address the raised concerns ... fair number of yes, couple no, couple abstain ... overall, general consensus that we are taking it as a WG item ... ML activity to refine, input solicited from all) [19:40:00] teredo extensions -- no presentation slides availab afaict [19:40:12] online that is [19:40:53] ((next best thing - the draft @ http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thaler-v6ops-teredo-extensions-02 )) [19:42:02] I'm following what's on https://datatracker.ietf.org/metting/73/materials.html [19:42:26] tom herbst joins the room [19:43:22] oh cool ... reload shows http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/v6ops-5.pdf [19:43:27] for presentation [19:44:23] slide 4 btw [19:46:39] slide 5 [19:47:38] becarpenter joins the room [19:47:57] nordmark leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [19:47:57] nordmark joins the room [19:51:39] slide 6 [19:52:49] slide 7 [19:55:45] slide 8 [19:56:52] bnsmith joins the room [19:58:47] ruri leaves the room [19:59:57] slide 9 [20:02:22] slide 10 [20:04:06] slide 11 [20:07:13] slide 12 [20:07:47] discussing slide 11 [20:08:27] eric.brunner joins the room [20:09:52] slide 12 [20:11:55] Bob joins the room [20:13:32] robmgl leaves the room [20:16:44] Fred: Calling WGLC on the Teredo presentation (excl Sec) in ~2 weeks [20:17:06] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/v6ops-2.pdf [20:17:22] slide 2 [20:17:49] nordmark leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [20:17:49] nordmark joins the room [20:18:10] slide 3 [20:18:18] slide 5 [20:18:33] Luly joins the room [20:18:52] slide 6 [20:19:03] slide 7 [20:19:15] DThaler joins the room [20:19:58] slide 8 [20:20:06] yoshfuji joins the room [20:20:33] slide 10 [20:20:42] slide 11 [20:21:11] slide 12 [20:21:46] slide 13 [20:21:57] (There's actually a better answer to the question James Woodyatt asked me... NATs _shouldn't be symmetric_, but should be say port-restricted instead. The extensions are for NATs that don't follow the recommendation to not be symmetric. Port-restricted NATs that allocate random ports already work using RFC 4380.) [20:22:20] slide 14 [20:22:50] slide 15 [20:22:53] slide 16 [20:23:30] slide 17 [20:24:38] slide 18 [20:24:51] raj leaves the room [20:25:17] slide 20 [20:25:45] slide 21 [20:26:10] slide 22 [20:26:58] slide 23 [20:28:01] slide 24 [20:28:19] slide 25 [20:28:33] eric.brunner leaves the room [20:28:40] danny joins the room [20:28:47] slide 26 [20:28:56] slide 27 [20:29:46] slide 28 [20:30:03] slide 29 [20:30:17] slide 30 [20:30:52] slide 31 [20:31:08] slide 32 [20:31:11] slide 33 [20:31:52] slide 34 [20:32:00] slide 35 [20:32:17] slide 36 [20:32:38] slide 37 [20:33:28] slide 38 [20:34:10] slide 39 [20:34:20] slide 40 [20:34:25] raj joins the room [20:34:45] slide 42 [20:37:12] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/v6ops-0.pdf up next ... [20:37:39] wow, he actually got through 42 slides... [20:39:16] hta leaves the room [20:39:17] bje leaves the room [20:43:16] from .se stats slide [20:43:25] hide.zebra leaves the room [20:43:44] "more .se stats" slide [20:44:30] "operator offerings" slide [20:45:02] "broadband neworks" slide [20:45:32] "operators" slide [20:46:02] "view from operator #1" slide [20:46:24] exeexe joins the room [20:46:29] "view from operator #2" slide [20:47:00] "view from free telecom" slide [20:47:58] "view from ripe stat files" slide [20:48:14] Bob leaves the room [20:48:15] "view from ripe stats file" slide [20:48:22] "content providers" slide [20:48:25] Bob joins the room [20:48:32] "their stats" slide [20:48:55] "os distribution" slide [20:49:09] "content providers" slide [20:49:20] ""another content provider"" slide [20:49:35] "what transport was used" sldie [20:49:55] "www.netnod.se" slide [20:50:26] http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08nov/slides/v6ops-4.pdf next [20:52:00] "motivation" slide [20:53:24] Fred Baker leaves the room [20:53:34] slide 3 [20:53:52] Fred Baker joins the room [20:55:38] slide 5 [20:56:05] nordmark leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [20:56:05] nordmark joins the room [20:59:10] slide 6 [20:59:44] slide 7 [21:00:00] Fred Baker leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [21:00:00] Fred Baker joins the room [21:00:17] slide 8 [21:00:30] robmgl joins the room [21:00:35] slide 9 [21:01:31] slide 10 [21:01:46] @BillC: thanks for the slide numbers [21:02:10] yeah they help a lot [21:02:26] np, slide 11 [21:02:30] slide 12 [21:02:38] slide 13 [21:03:17] sldie 14 [21:03:29] slide 15 [21:03:56] Bob leaves the room [21:04:24] Bob joins the room [21:04:25] slide 16 [21:04:32] iljitsch leaves the room [21:05:05] IIRC Free.fr was using 6to4RD, yes? ... and if so, I am curious - is this reported in this slide deck as free.fr "native"? ... not saying anything wrong with that, just asking ... 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