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[18:40:24] <dthaler> discussion of http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/slides/v6ops-1.ppt
[18:40:34] <dthaler> Rogue IPv6 Router Advertisement Problem Statement <http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/slides/v6ops-1.ppt>
[18:41:08] <dthaler> (problem is well-known - documented in RFC 3756 in fact, IETF solution is SEND, not yet deployed)
[18:41:14] <ThinkingCat> Thanks (again!) Dave :-)
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[18:42:52] <dthaler> next up: IPv6 RA-Guard <http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/slides/v6ops-2.ppt>
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[18:45:07] <dthaler> basically switch watches for RAs and drops them unless they arrive on specific ports (being the ones towads routers)
[18:45:52] <dthaler> can use a learning state to avoid configuring the switch ports, or can manually configure
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[18:47:33] <mike> anyone listening on the mp3 stream and having problems? mine went out and I'm not sure if it is a local issue or not (suddenly making loud flipping noises)
[18:47:45] <dthaler> there was a local issue briefly, back now
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[18:48:51] <dthaler> draft is draft-vandevelde-v6ops-RA-guard-00.txt
[18:48:57] <mike> hmm, had to restart my player, thanks.
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[18:50:51] <dthaler> next up: Teredo Security Concerns <http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/slides/v6ops-6.ppt>
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[18:52:03] <dthaler> original doc split into two pieces: security info discussion + update to existing teredo RFC
[18:52:19] <dthaler> this presentation is about the first part
[18:53:17] <Dan York> who was that at the microphone? Dave... from where?
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[18:53:27] <dthaler> me: Dave Thaler from Microsoft
[18:53:35] <Dan York> ah... thanks
[18:53:49] <dthaler> the draft documents the security improvements that are already in Windows but not in the RFC
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[18:54:20] <dthaler> (with one or two minor exceptions)
[18:54:58] <dthaler> (see minutes from last IETF's v6ops meeting for more info)
[18:58:21] <Will Ivancic> I tried MP3, it was very poor - low volume. I stopped.
[18:59:28] <dthaler> iljitsch: doc also ahs some language about whether shoudl use protocols that firewalls have a harder time blocking. Iljitsch suggests removing such text... don't get into the rathole, and maybe not good to limit all communication to what firewalls can do deep inspection with at the moment
[19:00:38] <dthaler> now onto other half: Teredo Security Updates <http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07dec/slides/v6ops-7.ppt>
[19:03:42] <dthaler> randomize unused flags bits in address, and deprecate cone bit (just leave set to 0). (Slides note that Vista implementation already does these.)
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[19:08:35] <dthaler> current v6ops charter says no changing bits on wire so either need this moved to INT (6man) or else update v6ops charter to accept it as an item.
[19:08:51] <dthaler> show of hands: more folks think it should be here and done, than not in v6ops
[19:09:11] <dthaler> <end of meeting>
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