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[20:56:36] <Alexey Melnikov> Is there any Etherpad info for UTA?
[20:56:58] <leifj> https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-uta-01?useMonospaceFont=true
[20:57:06] <Alexey Melnikov> Thanks
[20:58:05] <Alexey Melnikov> Are we doing Blue Sheets?
[20:58:16] <leifj> yes
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[21:04:24] Jim Fenton has set the subject to: Virtual UTA "at" IETF 107
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[21:07:23] <Jim Fenton> Is anyone else having trouble reading the slides? Looks like we're dropping some pixels.
[21:07:49] <Alexey Melnikov> They look a bit low res to me too
[21:09:25] <sftcd> slides aren't using as much of the screen for me as usual, but I have 'em in  another browser
[21:09:47] <stpeter> Meeting materials are available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-uta-01/session/uta
[21:09:54] <sftcd> oldversions-deprecate is sloooowly waiting for IETF LC
[21:10:01] <Jim Fenton> OMG is Valery's audio gain ever high
[21:16:36] <sftcd> I'd hope esni would be done before 195bis, but who knows
[21:20:07] <sftcd> i haven't read the draft yet, but doing this should be a no-brainer
[21:20:27] <Alexey Melnikov> mic: sounds like a reasonable plan
[21:21:25] <stpeter> In the Webex John Mattsson said "This should be more strict "Curves of less than 192 bits SHOULD NOT be used."
[21:21:32] <Alexey Melnikov> Stricter TLS 1.2 cipher recommendations + add TLS 1.3 recommendations sounds reasonable to me
[21:21:47] <Alexey Melnikov> +1 to John
[21:21:57] <stpeter> +1 here too
[21:23:38] <Alexey Melnikov> +1 to adopt
[21:23:42] <sftcd> +1 to adopt
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[21:23:51] <petereyee> +1 to adopt
[21:23:51] <stpeter> +1 (obviously)
[21:23:55] <tim costello> +1 to adopt
[21:23:58] <Jim Fenton> mmmmmm +1
[21:24:09] <Yaron Sheffer> +1 (co-author)
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[21:26:02] <stpeter> Administrivia question: is it better to submit *-bcp195bis or *-rfc7525bis? (Actually the BCP number won't change, so rfc7525bis seems more accurate.)
[21:26:37] <sftcd> is the intent to replace bcp195 or to add to it?
[21:27:43] <stpeter> Right, replace.
[21:27:53] <sftcd> then yeah 7525bis is righg
[21:27:56] <leifj> yep
[21:28:14] <stpeter> I have to drop from the Webex for another meeting I'm in the middle of, but I'll stay in the chatroom here.
[21:29:14] <sftcd> I'm in an audio-out challenging place, so can someone ask Hannes "what about cTLS?"
[21:29:32] <leifj> sure
[21:29:49] <sftcd> ta, at the end is fine
[21:30:07] <sftcd> oops, timing eh;-)
[21:30:21] <sftcd> no question is if this'd cover cTLS or not
[21:30:31] <stpeter> compact TLS
[21:30:37] <leifj> yeah I jumped that gun on him
[21:30:45] <leifj> but hannes is fast so...
[21:31:21] <sftcd> cTLS is only really getting started so this may be too early if it plans to say what to do with cTLS is my issue really
[21:31:47] <Alexey Melnikov> stpeter: -rfc7525bis looks better to me
[21:32:10] <stpeter> nod
[21:32:19] <stpeter> I added something to the Etherpad notes about it.
[21:37:41] <sftcd> +1 to what alexey said about cTLS
[21:40:14] <Alexey Melnikov> +1 to adopt Hannes' document
[21:40:29] <sftcd> I'm neutral on adoption of Hannes' thing - depends on the cTLS issue handling
[21:41:00] <Valery Smyslov> +1
[21:41:13] <tim costello> +1 to adopt
[21:41:17] <petereyee> +1 to adopt.  It needs to be done and it needs to be done somewhere.
[21:42:02] <tim costello> The list of the issues encountered by IOT companies would be good to see.
[21:42:18] <sftcd> yep, that bit's good/fine
[21:45:57] <sftcd> is that a golden shopping trolley? If so, I'm missing the significance :-)
[21:46:17] <leifj> it is beeing compressed
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[21:56:45] <sftcd> cheers bye all
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[21:58:05] <leifj> by all
[21:58:05] <leifj> thx
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[22:02:24] <Valery Smyslov> bye
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