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[00:39:33] <danny> did the voices go silent?
[00:39:49] <danny> I heard Yaacov earlier
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[00:43:08] <danny> Hi Karen
[00:43:41] <danny> I am hving trouble with the audio right now
[00:43:45] <kodonog> Hi Danny
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[00:44:32] <Stewart Bryant> Yaakov to update problem statement
[00:44:44] <kodonog> I'll report the audio to the noc jabber room
[00:45:11] <danny> I think it's just me
[00:45:23] <kodonog> ok...
[00:45:26] <danny> my daughter just got on her computer
[00:45:29] <Stewart Bryant> Is there an audio problem ? There was a problem earlier in the day
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[00:45:53] <Stewart Bryant> SR working on req
[00:46:03] <Stewart Bryant> K & G working on arch
[00:46:47] <Stewart Bryant> No work yet on solns - what should we do to avoid replicating work in other orgs
[00:47:26] <Stewart Bryant> Greg will find someone from his org to work on 1588 mib
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[00:51:23] <Stewart Bryant> correction to chair slide NTP ext is different topic to NTP v5
[00:52:33] <Stewart Bryant> is audio level ok?
[00:53:03] <kodonog> answer from the noc is that it is working but soft... they are going to adjust after the session... doesn't help Danny
[00:53:40] <Stewart Bryant> removed remote telco and power from req
[00:54:11] <Stewart Bryant> need info on indutrial, netwrking, legal time, metrology, sensor
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[00:55:41] <Stewart Bryant> yjs and sr to work on requ later this week
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[01:20:39] <danny> Whoever didn't check the volume doesn't seem to think that anyone needs to hear.
[01:21:13] <kodonog> can you hear any of us?
[01:22:05] <danny> barely
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[01:22:20] <danny> someone with a strong french accent is talking!
[01:22:49] <danny> Can you send me your slides/status of the NTP documents? I could barely hear a word
[01:23:27] <Stewart Bryant> Jean Loup - Rap Q13/15 giving a report on the meeting last week
[01:23:39] <danny> which meeting?
[01:23:56] <Stewart Bryant> ITU-T time & freq group met last week
[01:24:04] <danny> ah
[01:24:14] <Stewart Bryant> This is a report since we co-ord with them
[01:24:34] <danny> right
[01:24:49] <kodonog> danny... the noc can adjust the volume but will need to take down the stream to do it... is that ok
[01:25:09] <danny> may aswell
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[01:30:47] <werthe> Did the audio stream go silent?
[01:31:05] <kodonog> yes... the volume was really low... the noc is here working on it now...
[01:31:19] <kodonog> It should be back shortly...
[01:31:24] <danny> thx
[01:31:28] <werthe> Thank you
[01:33:32] <werthe> Were the slides from Jean-Loup Ferrant posted before the meeting?
[01:34:11] <Stewart Bryant> no - we will put them up after the session
[01:34:28] <werthe> OK
[01:34:45] <kodonog> audio should be better now... is it?
[01:34:54] <danny> not really
[01:34:55] <kodonog> noc says it is still soft, but should be better
[01:35:21] <werthe> It is acceptable with my speakers turned up very high.
[01:35:54] <danny> I'm just on my laptop right now and cannot get it higher
[01:36:27] <kodonog> noc is trying plan B
[01:38:16] <danny> no different
[01:48:20] <danny> now I have no sound whatsoever
[01:49:09] <Stewart Bryant> There is someone - I assume from the NOC - working on sme equip at front of room
[01:49:27] <danny> k
[01:49:40] <kodonog> noc guy says... should be back momentarily
[01:50:20] <danny> shouldn't they have done this before the meeting started? You're not the first group to use the room
[01:50:31] <danny> somewhat better
[01:51:11] <danny> I actually hear what Yaacov is saying
[01:53:30] <danny> this is modulo the error estimate
[01:53:45] <danny> why is symmetry assumed?
[01:55:24] <danny> You cannot assume that the exchange delay is symmetric. It almost never is.
[01:56:08] <kodonog> do you want me to make these comments...
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[01:56:31] <danny> yes
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[02:04:49] <danny> see the problems with coupled oscilators
[02:10:05] <danny> I suspect that it will all fall apart as soon as there is some assymmetry between the two packet directions
[02:10:50] <kodonog> danny just mentioned your last two comments...
[02:11:13] <kodonog> we need to work on our remote participation process...
[02:11:57] <danny> even worse the internet topology is almost by definition asymmetric
[02:13:04] <danny> even on ethernet topology due to packet delays
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