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[07:21:58] <Nancy Cam-Winget> Hello!
[07:22:16] <Tsukasa OI> Hi!
[07:22:33] <Akira Tsukamoto> Hi
[07:23:27] <Tsukasa OI> Yes.
[07:23:30] <Alessandro Toppi> yes I can
[07:23:31] <Akira Tsukamoto> yes
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[07:24:31] <Nancy Cam-Winget> We need a couple of people to help with note taking, we're using codimd: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-109-teep
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[07:27:29] <Hannes Tschofenig> Hi all
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[07:28:27] <Nancy Cam-Winget> Hi Hannes
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[07:30:48] <Dave Thaler> we hear you :)
[07:30:51] <Tsukasa OI> Good afternoon, everyone.
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[07:32:27] <Alessandro Toppi> Nancy: I'm not taking notes, I was replying just to say I could hear you
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[07:33:23] <akira.tsukamoto> Mine will not take 15 minutes
[07:33:34] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> In the past screenshares have taken 10+ seconds to appear
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[07:49:22] <Dave Thaler> chairs feel free to call time and move on to next preso if you want
[07:50:57] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> s/headers/header fields/ ;)
[07:52:08] <Dave Thaler> sorry for talking fast but we are short on time :)
[07:52:17] <Dave Thaler> ack to header fields :)
[07:52:18] <Akira Tsukamoto> Do you here me
[07:52:32] <Dave Thaler> no
[07:52:36] <Kuniyasu Suzaki> No
[07:53:20] <Akira Tsukamoto> let me reboot web brouser
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[07:53:44] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> The meet echo UI suggests that audio should be flowing, so either a
local (hardware?) mute is in effect or a reconnect is needed
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[07:54:20] <Meetecho> Or the wrong mic may have been picked?
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[07:54:56] <Dave Thaler> can reorder protocol and hackathon if needed
[07:55:20] <Meetecho> I see Akira's audio connection, and see audio in and out, which seems to suggest the mic may be locally muted on Akira's side
[07:55:23] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Akira, you may want to use the meetecho "preflight" stage to check
what microphone is being used
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[07:55:31] <Meetecho> Akira,can you see the moving waveform under your name while you speak?
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[07:56:21] <Meetecho> You can check the same waveform when using the preflight dialog, which is accessible during the session too under the "Settings" icon (top right, before the exit button)
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[07:56:42] <akira.tsukamoto> I am switching pc,
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[07:59:30] <Meetecho> Akira: same thing, streams seem up and running. Did you use the same headset on this other PC too?
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[08:00:53] <Akira Tsukamoto> The mic was working for other conf call, and using the same one
[08:01:10] <Tero Kivinen> we are now hearing clicking, so it should work now.
[08:01:35] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Akira: I heard you!
[08:01:42] <Akira Tsukamoto> thnks!
[08:01:48] <Henk Birkholz> akira! you are fine
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[08:06:54] <Nancy Cam-Winget> @Henk: do you mean to still be in the queue?
[08:07:16] <Akira Tsukamoto> My mic is working now
[08:09:11] <Russ Housley> Minor preference for 2
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[08:09:56] <Russ Housley> For the reason the Ben just said
[08:10:47] <Henk Birkholz> +1 for both on tam, and (2) mandatory to challenged entity
[08:10:57] <Hannes Tschofenig> +1 for both on tam, and (2) mandatory to challenged entity
[08:11:12] <Tadahiko Ito> it sound ok if agent- to- agent comunication will not occur forever
[08:11:15] <Kuniyasu Suzaki> Are they suitable for low power CPU?
[08:11:28] <Hannes Tschofenig> 2 is suitable for constrained devices.
[08:11:54] <Hannes Tschofenig> actually, both are useful for constrained devices but 2 is frequently implemented in hardware
[08:12:05] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Yeah, Hannes is right
[08:12:14] <Kuniyasu Suzaki> OK. Thank you.
[08:12:18] <Tirumaleswar Reddy.K> yes, captured
[08:13:07] <Nancy Cam-Winget> thank you Tiru!
[08:13:43] <Hannes Tschofenig> I agree with the conclusion that we shouldn't define TEEP-specific claims.
[08:15:10] <ko-isobe> +1
[08:25:24] <Dave Thaler> discussion at the end of the hackathon was to allow collisions between TAMs only {TAM,token} pair needs to be unique (if we keep token at all)
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[08:28:11] <Dave Thaler> This means the editors copy in github is now more correct than the posted draft, based on hackathon experience
[08:29:52] <Dave Thaler> Just wanted to tie back to what I said Akira was going to mention :)
[08:30:22] <Dave Thaler> can we use the RATS slot for a side meeting? or just have a virtual interim?
[08:30:46] <Hannes Tschofenig> Virtual interim meeting would be good. We could also do an interim hackathon
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[08:31:06] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> (I will be at MLS during that slot)
[08:31:12] <Mingliang Pei> +1 virtual meeeting
[08:31:13] <Henk Birkholz> +1 to rats slot
[08:31:25] <Hannes Tschofenig> +1
[08:31:59] <Dave Thaler> would we use webex or meetecho?  Or just meet another week?
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[08:33:36] <Hannes Tschofenig> I will be a little late at that meeting
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[08:34:31] <Dave Thaler> thanks all!
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[08:34:47] <ko-isobe> thanks
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