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[14:13:43] cabo has set the subject to: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2022-t2trg-01-t2trg?both
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[15:11:42] <Marco Tiloca_web_782> "Secchezza" is probably more used for "dryness", but I think "Seccore" fits better here :-)
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[15:30:10] <cabo> ➔ Exploitation of Amplification Vulnerabilities is highly optimistic.
[15:30:20] <cabo> Opportunistic...
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[15:38:47] <Michael Richardson_web_306> I think that in order to get data, we have to host workshops with Chatham House Rules.  This may be easier to do in person. On the other hand, doing it all virtual may be easier to get people who don't have travel budgets.
[15:39:30] <Michael Richardson_web_306> We have to reach out to the various "IoT" conferences... there are so many of them.  We need a 15 minute, 5-slide presentation that explains what we are looking for that gets repeated at multiple conferences.
[15:40:58] <Michael Richardson_web_306> _Powerful CoAP amplification attacks made headlines in  2018_  could someone link to these headlines?
[15:42:36] <cabo> Very good points; I added these to the notes
[15:44:34] <Christian Amsüss_web_905> MCR: LMGTFY -- https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-coap-protocol-is-the-next-big-thing-for-ddos-attacks/
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[15:52:24] <Carsten Bormann_web_678> I think MCR's request was to collect these sources, assess their information content, and create an overall picture from that
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[16:09:18] <Michael McCool_web_425> I am personally also interested in MUDs for next round of WoT standardization, although we still need to discuss concrete proposals; will discuss later
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[16:23:40] <cabo> Not a T2TRG question: [We fixed the regexp gap in yesterday's JSONPath interim, we think.  Substring is not yet addressed, should we?]
[16:25:48] <Sávyo Morais_web_301> For those who are interested in INXU - https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/9579390
[16:26:02] <Sávyo Morais_web_301> And sorry for the delay in the link
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[16:27:51] <Sávyo Morais_web_301> And the master's thesis: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15pt_hADbW3k9ZtWCTuOSjy72nd80qE4m/view?usp=sharing
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[16:38:57] <Michael McCool_web_425> regarding gaps and documentation: we are working on this in the WoT Use Cases and Requirements document (although right now that doc has mostly use cases and not enough requirements; WIP)
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[16:47:22] <Michael McCool_web_425> additional points I mentioned: applications of WoT in BIM and relationship to Linked Building Data and BOT (Building Ontology); Discovery and need to build a secure model there that still is usable in an ad-hoc manner (need "open" on-ramps, but not so open that they can be used for amplification, etc).
[16:50:29] <Michael McCool_web_425> SWORN -> similar mechanism in Z-Wave...
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[16:55:28] <Michael McCool_web_425> ... although Z-Wave wave-on-beam approach is more specialized
[16:55:37] <Michael McCool_web_425> s/wave/wake/
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[16:58:02] <Marco Tiloca_web_208> Thank you!
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