Tuesday, July 26, 2022< ^ >
RjS has set the subject to: STIR Interim
Room Configuration
Room Occupants

[18:57:14] <zulipbot> (Jean Mahoney) I will throw myself on the notes grenade
[18:58:20] <zulipbot> (Jack Rickard) I'm happy to help
[18:58:34] <zulipbot> (Jean Mahoney) having some difficulty hearing the chairs
[18:58:47] <zulipbot> (Jean Mahoney) nope
[18:59:00] <zulipbot> (Jean Mahoney) yep
[18:59:01] <zulipbot> (Jonathan Lennox) It helps if you turn it on!
[19:01:47] <zulipbot> (Jonathan Lennox) I'll be Jabber/Zulip scribe; if you're not able to speak into Meetecho for any reason, I can relay comments - prefix anything you'd like relayed with "mic:".
[19:05:12] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) can we get MeetEcho to point the camera at the presenter?
[19:05:51] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) 👍
[19:15:02] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) naming is hard
[19:17:14] <zulipbot> (Ben Campbell) monosodium glutimate integrity
[19:20:58] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) Hi jack - your mic is _super_ hot.
[19:24:30] <zulipbot> (Jack Rickard) Sorry, I'll turn it down a bit.
[19:24:30] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) many thanks
[19:26:24] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) (please remember names at mic - every time, as silly as it feels - matters for remote people who don't know you yet)
[19:27:03] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) (and people that might watch this later on youtube)
[19:37:49] <zulipbot> (Ben Campbell) and the RFC editors love clusters :-)
[19:42:54] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) I'm guessing most code finds an error and hits exception handling, and does not try to find all errors before going to exception handling.
[19:46:53] <zulipbot> (Jack Rickard) (Was that mic volume better?)
[19:47:06] <zulipbot> (Ben Campbell) @jack seemed better in the room
[19:48:32] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) Not sure an AS will "see" a response from a VS
[19:49:50] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) @jack yes
[20:05:33] <zulipbot> (Mary Barnes) No. We aren't forcing short lived certs in SHAKEN.
[20:06:42] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) Dozens or even hundreds of calls fail verification upon seeing a cert for the first time.
[20:07:59] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) Certs are not cached prior to call processing, and downloading certs and verifying the chain (especially long chains as are likely with Delegate Certs) takes TIME
[20:17:21] <zulipbot> (Jack Rickard) I don't think particularly strongly I just can't see why it'd be useful
[20:17:51] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) TNbyRef and OCSP are both loathesome
[20:18:30] <zulipbot> (Mary Barnes) Well, there may be more clever ways to do TNbyRef.  But, OCSP is there.
[20:20:09] <zulipbot> (Mary Barnes) @Jack We resolve that problem in ATIS by requiring it.
[20:24:34] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) +1 for Connected Identity.  Non-media INVITEs are common.
[20:26:29] <zulipbot> (Pierce Gorman) PRACK is extremely common in wireless
[20:26:43] <zulipbot> (Roman Shpount) UPDATE would make more sense here
[21:11:58] <zulipbot> (Robert Sparks) dunno if my audio made it earlier, but there is no audio coming from the room yet?