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[09:01:41] <Jean Mahoney> heheh
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[09:02:52] <Jean Mahoney> I prefer to take notes in TextEdit
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[09:03:16] <jon-ietf> nobody is awake enough to say anything noteworthy
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[09:09:39] <RjS> so - you would think that those are tabs (the things with slide deck names in them) in one window. They are not. Clicking on them does an in-place window replacement as far as what the browser can see with screen recording is concerned…
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[09:14:15] <Ben Campbell> Seems like it opens a lot of potential complexity for not much return.
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[09:38:50] <Ben Campbell> We need to ask meetecho for a drum roll button
[09:39:02] <Meetecho> :)
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[09:44:53] <RjS> mumble mumble 183 mumble mumble
[09:45:53] <Brian Rosen> New haptics, phone gets red hot
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[09:54:09] <Ben Campbell> Just a base passport?
[09:55:01] <Ben Campbell> I think my audio is broken
[09:55:36] <Ben Campbell> No passport extension needed, right? No problem with orig claim being confused with caller orig?
[09:55:37] <Russ Housley> Try circular arrows in lower right to restart audio
[09:55:52] <Brian Rosen> I'd review
[09:55:57] <Ben Campbell> Me too
[09:56:51] <Ben Campbell> sure, I meant no extension _required_
[09:57:10] <Ben Campbell> Anything to help sipbrandy :-)
[10:00:43] <Ben Campbell> Looks like Google is using Signal protocol
[10:01:53] <tim costello> sounds like a good idea.
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[10:09:17] <Thomas McCarthy-Howe> I can totally see this. I'm in.
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[10:15:39] <Ben Campbell> Did Jon just propose tunneling messages over passports? ;-)
[10:15:45] <jon-ietf> :P
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[10:23:43] <Jack Rickard> I don't think there's mush difference between a full cut-and-paste attack and forging your identity.
[10:23:54] <jon-ietf> yeah
[10:24:15] <Brian Rosen> applies to phone calls as well
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[10:25:07] <jon-ietf> i think the point is if you just want to send a different message between the same parties, without msgi, you can just cut and paste but put in your new msg and it will look legit
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[10:26:03] <Brian Rosen> sure, and if you are offering solutions, we're happy to contribute/deploy
[10:26:29] <jon-ietf> cool - yeah, msgi helps with that
[10:26:38] <Jack Rickard> Although I guess the interesting thing is that we don't have an equivalent to mdgi for INVITEs which is why that issue with div occurs where it's only secure if you have an IPNNI or are using SRTP (with mky).
[10:33:06] <jon-ietf> good night all
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[10:33:16] <Norbert IV> naptime
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