stir - Monday, July 22, 2019

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Monday, July 22, 2019< ^ >

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[15:09:21] <eburger> Is anyone jabber scribing?
[15:12:08] <Jonathan Lennox> I don't know if anyone volunteered. Do you need relay?
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[15:14:02] <eburger> Negative. I'm just in front of you :-) I'll let people know that...
[15:14:02] <eburger> Mary is at the mic
[15:14:02] <eburger> and Jon is on slide "SPCs and TNs"
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[15:16:31] <Eric Burger> (Barnes)
[15:16:57] <Eric Burger> Note to the radio audience - feel free to send "MIC: <question>" for channeling
[15:17:07] <Eric Burger> Sean TUrner
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[15:19:18] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Are we talking about delegation oc CA-Issuing-Certs or delegation of enpoint signing certs?
[15:19:42] <Eric Burger> Endpoint (enterprise)
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[15:19:52] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> This because PKI allows delegation of both.
[15:19:56] <Eric Burger> Slide: "To CA or not CA?"
[15:20:03] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> ... for different use cases.
[15:20:24] <Eric Burger> Willi: Want me to ask / say something at the mic?
[15:21:31] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Would be great Erich. Just if they want to delegate Endpoing or CA-Issuing certs. Thanks Willi
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[15:22:55] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Thanks! so this will be Registration CA's we are talking about
[15:23:40] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> OK
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[15:28:37] <Eric Burger> Slide: "Smaller questions"
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[15:40:29] <Eric Burger> Slides: "Next Steps"
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[15:44:44] <Eric Burger> Back to "Why are we talking about this?" slide
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[15:46:11] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> As long as the issuing CA takes part in the transaction / signs ... this will always be insecure. We need a CA thet is a trusted independent third I gues Willi
[15:47:08] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> So lets clearly separate the issuing Registration CA from Signing calls.
[15:47:09] <Eric Burger> Eric Burger at mic
[15:48:17] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> They will happily sign my malicious calls ;-)
[15:49:02] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Attestation is not needed if the signing party can be prosecuted!
[15:50:19] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Traceback is given if we use a prosecutable signature!
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[15:56:46] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Thanks Eric!
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