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[12:05:13] <ted.h> "bad dates" always reminds me of Indiana Jones
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[12:05:39] <Sean Turner> heh
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[12:08:59] <Sean Turner> ah good we changed the angle so I check out Jon's hat
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[12:11:13] <Meetecho> Eric Burger: trouble with the session? saw you leave and join multiple times
[12:11:29] <ted.h> "403: The monkey was poisoned"
[12:11:40] <John Braunberger> :)
[12:11:44] <Sean Turner> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qIMTA4_YdU
[12:12:00] <ted.h> We'll ask the chairs to put up youtube later.
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[12:19:36] <Shida Schubert> My apology.. I am relaying the message but I had hard time logging in.. Somehow Google thought I was logging in from Argentina and blocked my XMPP app using the Google credential :(
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[12:20:31] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Do we have a jabber scribe ?
[12:20:50] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> The scribe seat is occupied by an empty bottle
[12:20:53] <Eric Burger> Is Meetecho working?
[12:21:02] <Sean Turner> works fine here
[12:21:04] <Shida Schubert> Yeap, I am. As noted, I had trouble logging in using my Gmail credential as Google thought I was logging in from Argentina.
[12:21:08] <Shida Schubert> Yes, the Meetcho is working.
[12:21:10] <Meetecho> Eric Burger: yep
[12:21:12] <Eric Burger> I was bouncing in and out, but I was mobile
[12:21:19] <Eric Burger> No video being streamed?
[12:21:22] <Eric Burger> or audio?
[12:21:24] <Shida Schubert> I see you as a participant on Meetcho.
[12:21:33] <Eric Burger> How many times? :-)
[12:21:36] <Meetecho> Eric Burger: all streams are up and running
[12:21:44] <Meetecho> I did see you leave and join multiple times
[12:21:50] <Eric Burger> hmmm. I'll see if something on my end.
[12:21:50] <Meetecho> still not getting any media now?
[12:21:57] <Eric Burger> I'm here!!!!
[12:22:08] <Eric Burger> yay!
[12:22:14] <Meetecho> let me check the logs quickly
[12:22:33] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Eric Rescorla speaking
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[12:22:51] <Eric Burger> highly likely to be on my side - all of my multiple logins up to now were on LTE in a car moving at 35 MPH.
[12:23:03] <Eric Burger> Now I'm on an Internet2 connection.
[12:23:52] <Meetecho> I see all your streams up now, just some more NACKs (losses) than usual
[12:23:56] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Matt Miller speaking
[12:24:06] <Eric Burger> thanks
[12:24:13] <Meetecho> ah ok thought you weren't getting anything now either
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[12:26:25] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Christ Wendt speaking
[12:26:37] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Matt again
[12:29:03] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Christer HOlmberg speaking
[12:29:19] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Robert (chair) asked a question
[12:29:47] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> "as long as it works" - CH
[12:29:53] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Richard Shockey
[12:30:03] <Eric Burger> LOVE IT!!!!
[12:30:10] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> ** Laughter **
[12:30:11] <Sean Turner> awesome
[12:30:15] <m&m> nice
[12:30:35] <Shida Schubert> richard on mic
[12:30:47] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> If you remote friends need help to relay something - either use Meetecho or prefix your statement here with "mic:"
[12:30:51] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Rickard speaking again
[12:30:52] <Paul Kyzivat> How will the example on the slide be rendered in ascii art ? :-)
[12:32:36] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> …and signed, sealed and delivered...
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[12:33:36] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> Martin Dolly speaking
[12:34:21] <Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST)> I see a pacman ghost on the screen
[12:34:24] <Meetecho> Paul K in virtual queue
[12:35:00] <Meetecho> Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST): warned you we were silly :)
[12:35:11] Olle E. Johansson at IETF Berlin (GMT+1 DST) is now known as eoj
[12:35:22] <eoj> @meetecho: But I did not get the level of sillyness
[12:35:32] eoj is now known as oej
[12:35:33] <oej> ;-)
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[12:36:34] <Simon Pietro Romano> :-)
[12:36:57] <Simon Pietro Romano> Tell Paul to adjust his camera position ;-)
[12:37:10] <Eric Burger> He is 'highlighting'
[12:37:56] <Simon Pietro Romano> :o
[12:41:06] <oej> chris wendt speaking
[12:44:04] <oej> Robert sparks (no hat I assume) in mic line
[12:44:11] <oej> s/hat/chair hat/
[12:45:47] <Eric Burger> :-)
[12:46:25] <oej> Robert sparks speaking (no chair hat)
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[12:53:56] <oej> Christer Holmberg at mic
[12:55:51] <oej> Jon speaking in mic line
[12:56:22] <oej> Jon and Chris Wendt having a dialog
[12:57:33] <oej> Christer Holmberg speaking again
[12:58:36] <oej> Erik Rescorla at mic
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[13:01:18] <Eric Burger> Ask folks to use mic or have speaker say it again
[13:01:21] <oej> Jon
[13:01:36] <oej> done
[13:01:50] <oej> Jon and EKR at one mic, Chris Wendt in front of the room
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[13:03:54] <Eric Burger> Russ - speak up
[13:03:55] <Sean Turner> mic!
[13:03:57] <Sean Turner> :)
[13:04:08] <oej> Richard Barnes
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[13:04:40] <oej> I reminded the chair to remind the chair to always use the mic
[13:04:46] <Eric Burger> thanks
[13:04:47] <Sean Turner> thanks!
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[13:05:42] <oej> Russ spoke
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[13:06:23] <oej> We see you sean
[13:07:09] <oej> Jon Peterson at mic
[13:07:47] <oej> Matt Miller speaking at mic
[13:08:26] <oej> M&M : "You know, idiots are everywhere"
[13:08:58] <Eric Burger> Don't forget IDN URI's are coming/here
[13:09:21] <oej> Matt and JOn discussing
[13:09:32] <oej> SIP URI's are unicode in the username part
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[13:09:44] <oej> sip:blåbärsmjölk@edvina.net
[13:09:51] <Sean Turner> looking for "barfing" emoji
[13:10:07] <oej> Jon back at mic
[13:10:37] <oej> sip:🐸@example.com
[13:10:40] <oej> Ted Hardie
[13:10:52] <Eric Burger> and the DNS supports .орг
[13:11:21] <oej> How do you mean, Eric?
[13:11:32] <oej> (and if you need something relayed, prefix with "mic:" )
[13:11:45] <Eric Burger> It would suck if we cannot support something like the gTLD .संगठन, which funds the IETF...
[13:11:47] <oej> Or use the Meetecho cool virtual queue
[13:12:25] <oej> Ted hardie speaking
[13:12:37] <oej> "The presentation form of DNS names include Unicode"
[13:13:17] <oej> We have two different encodings to choose from
[13:13:21] <oej> Jon speaking
[13:13:30] <oej> Ted going back to mic
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[13:14:06] <Eric Burger> mic: I would be upset if we cannot support IDNs
[13:14:18] <oej> Shida: Do you relay?
[13:14:19] <Eric Burger> Don't need to go to mic since Ted's taking care of it
[13:14:24] <oej> ok
[13:14:39] <Eric Burger> (I got kicked off in the middle of the discussion :-( )
[13:14:41] <Shida Schubert> Oej: It looks like you are managing the jabber scribe.
[13:14:49] <oej> Just helping out :-)
[13:15:04] <Sean Turner> nope
[13:15:20] <oej> Chair asking us for "one conversation" without pointing out which one
[13:15:25] <oej> (lots of chatter in the room)
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[13:15:38] <Shida Schubert> Oej: Please you go ahead in future as you are doing fantastic relaying requests from the room :)
[13:17:02] <oej> Russ speaking as chair
[13:20:39] <oej> Chris Wendt possibly asking a dumb question.
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[13:24:00] <oej> Martin Dolly speaking
[13:26:16] <Eric Burger> mic: SHOULD send "not good" UNLESS <what?>
[13:26:18] <oej> That slide will not compile, unbalanced double quotes
[13:26:29] <Eric Burger> otherwise, MUST send "not good"
[13:26:48] <Eric Burger> otherwise MUST send "not good"
[13:27:04] <Sean Turner> what jon said
[13:27:14] <Eric Burger> ok, thanks
[13:27:24] <oej> :-)
[13:27:25] <Sean Turner> what jon said :)
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[13:28:02] <Eric Burger> Of course, I die right after Jon answers!
[13:28:05] <Eric Burger> I'm back
[13:28:15] <Eric Burger> yup
[13:28:30] <Sean Turner> lazarus!
[13:28:33] <Eric Burger> :*
[13:28:57] <oej> ** laughter in the room **
[13:30:21] <oej> Russ as chair speaking
[13:30:40] <oej> Alissa Cooper speaking
[13:31:04] <oej> Current AD and former AD trying to sort out their process
[13:31:17] <Sean Turner> sean to provide text to alissa
[13:31:33] <oej> Need to check if there's any mentioning of OCSP stapling in the text
[13:31:42] <oej> (that was my private comment)
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[13:32:11] <Sean Turner> I believe there is not currently - also note there's multi-stapling
[13:32:35] <oej> Well, we're time critical in phone calls, so stapling makes sense as OCSP is not known to be fast
[13:32:48] <Sean Turner> agreed
[13:32:51] <oej> Any ref on multi-stapling, sean?
[13:33:29] <oej> Alissa Cooper speaking
[13:33:39] <oej> Suggesting mile stone refresh
[13:34:01] <oej> Russ speaking (chair)
[13:34:17] <Sean Turner> @oej: RFC 6961
[13:34:24] <oej> @sean thanks
[13:35:09] <oej> Oh I see, staples for the full chain. Sweet.
[13:35:29] <Sean Turner> unsure how widely it's supported
[13:36:14] <oej> Trust me, we need it in realtime comms. I added OCSP stapling to SIPconnect 2.0, but multi-stapling feels like an improvement
[13:36:21] <Eric Burger> That would be me
[13:36:23] <oej> Chris Wendt speaking
[13:36:45] <oej> Jon reminds everyone about SIPbrandy
[13:37:50] <oej> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/sipbrandy/charter/
[13:38:15] <Eric Burger> Thanks!
[13:38:19] <oej> https://www.sipit.net/Main_Page <- Come to SIPit!
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[13:38:46] <oej> Thank you everyone! See you in other sessions!
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