- Tuesday, November 5, 2013

stir@jabber.ietf.org

Tuesday, November 5, 2013< ^ >

danyork has set the subject to: STIR BOF - IETF 87

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[21:04:32] Dan York has set the subject to: STIR WG - IETF 88
[21:04:32] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Note Well
[21:04:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: chairs
[21:04:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Note Well
[21:04:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: 
[21:04:43] <Dan York> I'll be jabber scribing
[21:04:47] <Dan York> Anyone remote?
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[21:05:51] <Tobia Castaldi> Presentation stopped
[21:06:08] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: STIR Problem Statement
[21:06:10] Hala Mowafy joins the room
[21:06:12] <Dan York> Jon Peterson presenting
[21:06:42] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: draft-ietf-stir-problem-statement
[21:07:05] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: What’s New in -00?
[21:08:34] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Random Cleanup for -01
[21:09:11] Cullen Jennings joins the room
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[21:10:30] <Eric Burger> Anyone Jabber scribing?
[21:11:00] <Dan York> yes
[21:11:12] <Eric Burger> Dan - man you are Mr. Jabber Scribe!
[21:11:13] <Dan York> If you need a relay please let me know
[21:11:16] <Eric Burger> Thanks
[21:11:24] <Dan York> Hadriel at mic
[21:11:42] <Dan York> Eric Burger: I enjoy jabber scribing - it keeps me focused ;-)
[21:12:08] <Eric Burger> Me, too. That's why I jump at the opportunity. Otherwise I end up doing other stuff.
[21:14:13] <Dan York> ;-)
[21:14:42] <Dan York> Now for this session... I need to have a Jabber client with macros:  "Hadriel at mic" ... "Cullen Jennings at mic" ... etc.
[21:14:51] <Dan York> Cullen Jennings is at the mic
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[21:15:43] <Eric Burger> Mic is soft. Both Hadriel and Cullen were hard to hear. Knowing Hadriel, that means I heard him from Vancouver directly, not over the Internet ;-)
[21:15:43] <Dan York> Hadriel at mic
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[21:16:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Hi everybody, a Meetecho session is available at http://www.meetecho.com/ietf88/stir
[21:16:35] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: VIPR and iMessage
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[21:18:49] <Dan York> ? at mic
[21:18:51] <Dan York> EKR at mic
[21:19:29] <Eric Burger> LOUDLY!!!
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[21:19:31] <Eric Burger> THANKS!!!
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[21:21:09] <Dan York> Eric Burger: Is Jon Peterson's audio low, too?  Or is it just the mic line?
[21:21:14] <Dan York> Martin Dolly at mic
[21:21:24] <Eric Burger> Just the mic line. Jon is loud and clad.
[21:21:29] <Eric Burger> He's dressed
[21:21:36] <Eric Burger> I mean clear :-)
[21:21:38] <Eric Burger> Martin is much better.
[21:21:39] <Eric Burger> Thanks Tobia!
[21:21:53] <Eric Burger> Tobias, that is
[21:22:32] <Dan York> Hadriel at mic
[21:22:46] <jgunn> Hard to hear Hadriel
[21:22:58] <Dan York> I've raised a ticket for the mic
[21:23:03] <Dan York> with the NOC
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[21:23:51] <Dan York> Cullen at mic
[21:24:00] <Eric Burger> It did not solve anything.
[21:24:08] <Eric Burger> That is the problem.
[21:24:12] <Dan York> Do you want that relayed
[21:24:14] <Dan York> ?
[21:24:19] <Dan York> Martin Dolly at mic
[21:24:21] <Eric Burger> Nah - I think enough people know that.
[21:24:27] <Dan York> :-)
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[21:25:11] <Dan York> EKR at mic
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[21:26:27] <Dan York> hadriel at mic
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[21:27:21] <Eric Burger> zzzzzz
[21:27:29] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Distinctions, distinctions
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[21:29:18] <Dan York> Jon's proposal:  "in-band means in SIP"
[21:29:44] <Dan York> Hadriel at mic
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[21:33:29] <Dan York> EKR at mic
[21:33:34] <Dan York> Martin Dolly at mic
[21:33:51] <Dan York> David Holmes at mic
[21:34:32] <Dan York> Cullen at mic
[21:35:38] <Dan York> Brian Rosen at mic
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[21:37:05] <Dan York> Martin Dolly at mic
[21:37:43] <Dan York> Hadriel Kaplan at mic
[21:37:54] <Eric Burger> If no one says this, you can go to mike: +1 what Martin said. It will be five years if ALL GOES WELL. No sense fretting about a dying use case.
[21:38:00] <Dan York> I will
[21:38:05] <Eric Burger> thx
[21:38:46] <Cullen Jennings> Eric, are you in Vancouver ?
[21:39:13] <Eric Burger> Negative
[21:39:21] <Eric Burger> Coby's really sick :-(
[21:39:47] <Dan York> Brian Rosen at mic
[21:39:55] <Eric Burger> thanks @ Dan
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[21:40:38] <Cullen Jennings> Best wishes to Coby
[21:40:47] <Eric Burger> thanks
[21:41:18] <Dan York> Chris Wendt at mic
[21:42:20] <Eric Burger> who is talking?
[21:42:26] <Eric Burger> not at mike...
[21:42:57] <Eric Burger> Sounds like there was just a hum. Is the Chair not miked?
[21:43:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: More Open Issues
[21:43:45] <jgunn> What was the result of the hum?
[21:43:45] <Eric Burger> What was the him?
[21:43:49] <Eric Burger> ^him^hum
[21:44:05] <Dan York> Russ speaking
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[21:44:16] <Jonathan Lennox> Can you hear Russ remotely?
[21:44:28] <jgunn> Not well
[21:44:29] <Eric Burger> I cannot hear him at all.
[21:44:30] <Eric Burger> him = Russ
[21:44:32] <Dan York> Mild preference for definition of in-band being in the control plane
[21:44:46] <Dan York> Andrew (?) at mic
[21:45:08] <Dan York> Cullen at mic
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[21:46:52] <Dan York> mic line forming
[21:47:02] <Dan York> Hadriel at mic
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[21:47:23] <Eric Burger> How about 3206 bytes? Just joking. Yes, this is silly. No, DON'T go to the mic.
[21:47:41] <Dan York> I won't. Eating a sandwich.
[21:47:47] <Eric Burger> yum
[21:48:16] <Dan York> Didn't get to eat while doing the live steam. ;_)
[21:49:34] <Dan York> EKR at mic
[21:50:46] <Dan York> Andrew Allen at mic
[21:51:08] <richard.barnes> how much SIP/UDP is out there, really?
[21:51:10] <Dan York> Steve Kent at mic
[21:52:27] <Dan York> Cullen at mic
[21:53:31] <Dan York> Hadriel at mic
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[21:54:57] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: draft-ietf-stir-threats
[21:55:28] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Overview
[21:56:10] <Jonathan Lennox> Were Robert's questions audible on the feed?
[21:56:31] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Scope of Work
[21:57:37] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: What’s New
[21:58:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Now what?
[21:58:58] <Eric Burger> I *am* home :-)
[21:59:02] <Dan York> :-)
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[21:59:21] <richard.barnes> ekr
[21:59:25] <Dan York> I have to drop off now for a 2pm meeting... we'll be back again tomorrow for more STIRring of this conversation
[21:59:32] <richard.barnes> sorry, wrong window
[21:59:51] <Dan York> Brian Rosen at the mic
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[22:00:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: Some Open Issues
[22:00:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: Dancing around MitM?
[22:00:45] <Jonathan Lennox> I'll take over for Jabber relay
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[22:04:48] <Tobia Castaldi> Presentation stopped
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[22:05:51] <Tobia Castaldi> by eall
[22:05:56] <Tobia Castaldi> bye all :)
[22:06:00] <Tobia Castaldi> the session is over
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