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[11:49:15] <Bruno Decraene_web_459> #topic IETF-112
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[11:51:23] <Joel Halpern_web_158> Jim, Bruno, we have been a little slack on coordination.  Do you want me to do the chair presentation, since I need to do one slide in there?
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[11:51:39] <Joel Halpern_web_158> Also, I am inclined to have folks run their own presentaitons from the uploaded materials.
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[11:51:57] <Bruno Decraene_web_459> yes please
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[11:52:09] <Bruno Decraene_web_459> looks good
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[12:03:00] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> Actually https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-112-spring?both
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[12:03:29] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> My pleasure Joel
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[12:08:59] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> You may see that 6MAN has found a volunteer for the "SID I-D" per the 6MAN agenda tomorrow ;-)
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[12:09:51] <Srihari Sangli_web_354> Chairs. Should 6man bless the document ? c-sid and its relationship to 4291. Was  that Joel's point ?
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[12:11:07] <Srihari Sangli_web_354> ok, thanks!
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[12:14:39] <Joel Halpern_web_158> Greg, do you feel you need to comment now, or can you wait until he finishes?
[12:14:39] <Bruno Decraene_web_459> (Hopefully) All presenters should be able to use the "Share Preloaded Slides" (2nd icon from the left) to have meetecho share the slides.
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[12:19:42] <Jie Dong_web_780> @Joel the presenter of the 2nd topic will be Yongqing Zhu, thanks.
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[12:20:55] <Joel Halpern_web_158> Thank you Jie.  Understood.
[12:22:13] <Jie Dong_web_780> thanks Joel
[12:22:16] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> If the MPLS LS is changed so with the ECMP and hence the time of transit
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[12:25:18] <Jared Mauch_web_668> Everything needs to match and the hardware implementation may vary and result in a different hashing result
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[12:27:37] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> Indeed - a bidirectional path is not a given in any IP/MPLS network unless you engineer it in. There was a lot of attention given to this in MPLS-TP
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[12:28:17] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> I cannot see how SR can achieve this other than through an end to end set of bidirectional binding sids
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[12:33:43] <Cheng Li_web_208> Hi Stewart, Path Segment can be used for bidirectional path use case.
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[12:34:21] <Cheng Li_web_208> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-spring-mpls-path-segment
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[12:34:45] <Cheng Li_web_208> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-path-segment
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[12:40:48] <Takuya Miyasaka_web_542> Perhaps an inter-domain IETF network slicing?
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[12:45:13] <Vishnu Beeram_web_715> @Takuya -- IETF Network Slice can by definition, span multiple technologies and multiple administrative domains; as Adrian mentioned, steering away from using the term “e2e slicing” seems a good idea; would be useful if the draft sticks to discussing VTN stitching (and not worry about e2e slicing)..
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[12:47:27] <Jie Dong_web_780> @Takuya good point, this document intends to cover the multi-domain or inter-domain IETF network slicing with SR based technologies
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[12:48:53] <Jie Dong_web_780> While the E2E IETF network slicing draft in TEAS may have a slightly larger scope. We can discuss that one in TEAS tomorrow
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[12:49:41] <Jie Dong_web_780> @Pavan thanks for your comment, we will consider the relationship with the IETF network slice draft
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[12:54:48] <Shraddha Hegde_web_932> Robin, this mechanism is for loosely coupled domains where aggregation is not possible.
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[13:00:09] <Cheng Li_web_208> IMHO, it will be better to have more clarification of why we need these behaviors in SRv6. Why current behaviors can not meet the requirements.
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[13:05:01] <Jie Dong_web_780> +1, some of the new behaviors are similar to MPLS label swapping
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[13:06:24] <Cheng Li_web_208> I can not hear Ron very good
[13:06:26] <Shraddha Hegde_web_932> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hegde-spring-mpls-seamless-sr/ draft provides details of the requirements and architecture
[13:06:28] <Cheng Li_web_208> My issue?
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[13:06:50] <Tianran Zhou_web_928> @r
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[13:07:14] <Joel Halpern_web_158> To my ears Ron is a little soft but quite audible.  And Giuseppe seems to be hearing and answering the quesiton.
[13:07:49] <Tianran Zhou_web_928> Hi Ron, the generic way is defiend in 6man. This is only an optimizaiton for SRH.
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[13:20:46] <Eduard V_web_929> Is ELAN for SR-MPLS? SRv6? Both?
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[13:22:09] <Jorge Rabadan_web_548> what is the difference between this one and draft-boutros-bess-elan-services-over-sr?? seems to be the same content..
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[13:25:35] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> And I hope that NDP support will be added...
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[13:27:02] <Eduard V_web_929> Looks like ELAN over IGP. I have not heard how flooding should cross IGP Area borders.
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[13:29:27] <Wim Henderickx_web_910> i believe this draft should be discussed in BESS afais
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[13:29:45] <Zhenbin Li_web_604> +1
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[13:30:51] <Jeff Tantsura_web_393> +1
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[13:31:54] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> Good job by the chairs wrt. timing, the WG meeting appears to be terminated at the top of the hour :-)
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[13:33:05] <Wim Henderickx_web_910> indeed good time management. the slide loading is a bit time consuming it seems. Better for presentation but might be good if we find a way to speed this up somehow.
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[13:34:46] <Joel Halpern_web_158> We are trying to stay on schedule.  In spite of the slack, we may still not make it.
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[13:38:38] <Russ White_web_294> what is meant by "intent" here? it seems to be traffic steering rather than qos queueing sorts of things? or could it cover both meanings?
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[13:40:50] <Jeff Tantsura_web_393> +1 Russ, traffic steering policy would be a better name
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[13:41:43] <Jingrong Xie_web_726> Looks like a  Qos thing but not specify the endpoint, so not like a "traffic steering policy".
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[13:41:59] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> Zhenbin, question here in order to avoid wasting time... in section 5, may I suggest to specify whether the IPv6 dest options should be BEFORE or AFTER the routing header?
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[13:44:19] <Acee Lindem_web_631> I'm sorry but I don't get this... If you have an SR policy which imposes an SR path, why do we want dest options to modify the path?
[13:44:19] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> We do not do presentations do we? Presumably we have two more drafts to discuss :)
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[13:44:37] <Joel Halpern_web_158> Yes Stewart :-)
[13:44:42] <Jie Dong_web_222> the "intent" can be broader than QoS
[13:45:30] <Shaofu Peng_web_766> Do you think we can use color directly in the forwarding plane? If not, why can intent be used in the forwarding plane ?
Using existing fields, such as 5-tuple, DSCP, can be mapped to color. Why emphasize intent? I don’t see the necessity of intent.
[13:45:32] <Jeff Tantsura_web_393> Intent = ANY ;-) wellintended
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[13:47:16] <Ketan Talaulikar_web_966> @Jeff +1 ;-)
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[13:48:04] <Joel Halpern_web_158> The NMRG have a definition of intent at their level.  It is not the same as the way "intent" is used in the coloring routing work.  ALthough one can see relationships.
[13:48:21] <Acee Lindem_web_631> This proposes a second field that implies a possibly conflicting path from the SR path in the data plane. This seems like a very bad idea.
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[13:48:40] <Acee Lindem_web_631> The previous presentation...
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[13:49:11] <Joel Halpern_web_158> @acee thanks for clarifying which presentiaton you were commenting on.  You mean the inent one.
[13:49:19] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> We should indeed try to use the same definition of 'intent' within the IETF WG ;-)
[13:49:19] <Acee Lindem_web_631> YEs
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[13:49:53] <Joel Halpern_web_158> @Eric I have tried to ask for consistency and failed to get traction.
[13:50:05] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> I understand :-(
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[13:50:54] <Tony Przygienda_web_446> if we want a definition of "intent" we probably need a bunch of psychologists (and maybe even psychoanalysts) in the according WG :-P
[13:51:24] <Jeff Tantsura_web_393> In the intent definition draft we called this - “intent washing”
[13:51:31] <Jeff Tantsura_web_393> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/
[13:51:31] <Erik Kline_web_241> Ron is correct that the SA needs to be able to receive ICMPv6 errors and have a reasonable expectation of processing them
[13:51:38] <John Scudder_web_882> Regrettably, "intent" is used to mean so many things by now, that it arguably has no meaning whatsoever. :-(
[13:52:12] <Adrian Farrel_web_548> Didn't SUPA do something on this?
[13:52:55] <Jeffrey Haas_web_282> intent means what you intend it to?
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[13:53:00] <Joel Halpern_web_158> Don't get me started on SUPA.
[13:53:25] <Adrian Farrel_web_548> Go on, Joel, tell us about your thoughts on SUPA
[13:53:42] <Erik Kline_web_241> :popcorn:
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[13:54:17] <Tony Przygienda_web_446> The whole meaning of "intent" (and any other word) has been conclusively treated in chapter 6 of "Allice in Wonderland" AFAIR
[13:54:33] <John Scudder_web_882> "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
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[13:56:26] <Boris Khasanov_web_182> Lewis Carroll was a genius
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[13:56:54] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> This sort of out of the box thinking is something that the IETF has to get better at doing
[13:57:48] <Tom Hill_web_837> I am reminded of: https://xkcd.com/927/
[13:57:50] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> Innovation indeed deserves more than 10 minutes. Research Group ?
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[13:58:02] <Ketan Talaulikar_web_966> How about this https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intent ... and I mean the noun?
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[13:58:31] <Tony Przygienda_web_446> we're already thinking out the box, we are by definition standardizing how the boxes talk to each other. Unfortunately, on a half serious note it seems we start to contradict our own definitions and change the meaning of things like "address" and all smart people know what lies that way ...
[13:58:38] <Ketan Talaulikar_web_966> Perhaps IETF should capitalize "I" if we ever end up defining a terminology?
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[13:59:14] <Jingrong Xie_web_726> Ron is correct that the SA needs to be able to receive ICMPv6 errors and have a reasonable expectation of processing them ---->Thank you Erik and Ron, I agree with that.
[13:59:19] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> The IRTF seems very reluctant to do research on fundamentally new work at the data plane and at the routing layer - by yes we need to be spending more time on theses thoughts
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[14:00:01] <Tom Hill_web_837> If that is the case, then there must be a reason for it. Pushing the work into the IETF does not seem to be appropriate either.
[14:00:10] <Xuesong Geng_web_748> @Erik, @ Ron when there is something wrong and need to send an ICMPv6 packet with the source segment being used as an DA, the source  could be used as a normal IPv6 address and forwarded to the  root node
[14:00:38] <Ketan Talaulikar_web_966> (mis)appropriating English language words makes it difficult for specs to be easier to read.
[14:01:00] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> @Steward looks similar (in the long term network sense) ICNRG
[14:01:05] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> @Tom I will not speculate on the cause, I just observe the effect
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[14:01:24] <Acee Lindem_web_631> I don't think this should be discussed on SPRING list
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[14:01:35] <Tom Hill_web_837> +!
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[14:01:39] <Tom Hill_web_837> *+1
[14:01:40] <Stewart Bryant_web_429> @Eric this not the same as ICN
[14:01:43] <John Scudder_web_882> @ketan, indeed. (So does gratuitously introducing acronyms/initialisms, and no, I'm not pointing at anyone, you just triggered one of my pet peeves.)
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[14:01:46] <Melchior Aelmans_web_218> thanks all! :)
[14:01:47] <Tom Hill_web_837> Thanks Joel
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[14:01:52] <Shaofu Peng_web_766> Bye
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[14:01:53] <Ruediger Geib_web_170> Thanks
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[14:01:57] <Éric Vyncke_web_881> @Steward of course but similar in the long term vision rather than short term
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