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[16:04:52] Exodus leaves the room [16:05:47] hirocomb12 joins the room [16:06:02] Exodus joins the room [16:06:11] Exodus leaves the room [16:06:42] Exodus joins the room [16:06:46] Exodus leaves the room [16:06:57] Exodus joins the room [16:07:35] Exodus leaves the room [16:10:06] It's just the slides for the first talk that is corrupted. [16:10:22] Yeah, softwire-1.ppt is fine... [16:11:02] fujisaki joins the room [16:12:45] Who is the presenter who just finished? [16:12:59] karen.s.seo leaves the room [16:22:15] karen.s.seo joins the room [16:23:41] Karen: I believe that was Carlos Pignataro. This one is Yiu Lee. [16:25:07] The previous one ("Hub & Spoke framework" at ) was Dave Ward presenting on behalf of the document authors, one co-author is Carlos Pignataro [16:26:01] Thank you! [16:26:09] NP :-) [16:26:54] That presumably puts pressure on the CGN to defrag - but the CGN presumably already has so much work to do anyway, that it's probably not a scaling problem... [16:33:55] Ole Troan leaves the room [16:35:22] Wes Beebee leaves the room [16:35:49] when we learn to deceive [16:35:57] Wes Beebee joins the room [16:36:15] Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we learn to deceive... [16:36:17] Ole Troan joins the room [16:36:39] Dave Thaler joins the room [16:37:22] Desire joins the room [16:37:29] a little bird joins the room [16:38:30] Each access router can support up to 100,000 users, although many SP's don't typically run that hot... [16:43:39] Mark Townsley joins the room [16:45:02] Anycast address for CGN? [16:46:58] agree with Brian [16:51:08] I disagreed with Brian [16:51:51] I was agreeing to the fact from Brian that some network connectivity can be automatically detected and a DHCP option may not be needed [16:52:26] like a home router can first try native IPv6 connectivity and if that fails after a timeout, then 6to4 tunnels can be initiated [16:52:28] accepting an option on one interface (a tunnel) and changing behavior on another interface (the physical interface) is wrong in general [16:52:45] and one does not need a new DHCP option for such automatic fall back [16:52:56] ah ok yes (which is in fact what Windows does) [16:53:02] good [16:53:23] Dave: agree with you on one interface config being used for another interface [16:53:27] try native IPv6 -> if fail, try 6to4 -> if fail, try teredo [16:53:35] Good job, Windows! [16:58:34] We should understand more about what it is that we're standardizing before we standardize it... [17:06:31] This has the same MFIB bloat issues that WK have on FIB bloat... but since there are so few groups in mcast, this is not as bad a problem for MFIB... [17:08:11] hirocomb12 leaves the room [17:13:23] Algorithms for optimizing multicast routes over mesh tunnel networks... [17:22:00] Lee Howard leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [17:22:00] Lee Howard joins the room [17:23:29] danwing leaves the room [17:24:14] BuBo joins the room [17:40:42] danwing joins the room [17:40:59] Ralph Droms joins the room [17:41:15] jari.arkko joins the room [17:41:22] pselkirk joins the room [17:41:38] BuBo leaves the room [17:45:30] jani-h joins the room [17:45:39] Are there slides somewhere for this presentation? They don't seem to be on the IETF74 web site for this WG. [17:46:08] satoru.matsushima leaves the room [17:46:21] Are there slides for this talk? There aren't any on the IETF 74 web site for this WG. 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