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[15:10:26] synp has set the subject to: SMART (Stopping Malware and Researching Threats) @IETF104 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/agenda-104-smart-01
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[15:28:20] <Eric Burger> Do we have a Jabber scribe?
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[15:29:46] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> What services do you require of a jabber scribe?
[15:30:15] <Barry Leiba> I will channel, if people prefix comments with "mic:"
[15:30:23] <Eric Burger> Didn't need it on the intro, but might want to comment later.
[15:30:25] <Eric Burger> Thanks Barry!
[15:31:20] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> (Barry is sitting in an aisle seat, so he's better-placed for it than I)
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[15:37:56] <francesca> maybe I missed it, is there an etherpad for minutes?
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[15:39:51] <sftcd> so as an RG I'd expect justification for stats, but that's tricky in this space
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[15:41:26] <Eric Burger> Yes (there's an Etherpad), but it looks like No (no one is taking live notes)
[15:41:50] <francesca> ok so I didn't miss it :) thanks Eric
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[15:43:51] <sftcd> if people are unaware of that report, it's not clear how they'd become aware of an RG presentation/document
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[15:54:12] <Eric Burger> See also https://www.lawfareblog.com/wassenaar-export-controls-surveillance-tools-new-exemptions-vulnerability-research
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[16:18:27] <Eliot Lear> Hacking the best practice: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pan9wn/hackers-hijacked-asus-software-updates-to-install-backdoors-on-thousands-of-computers?fbclid=IwAR1oJceFZ0wK0TWvulxJLs9vboIWzM7q2lgsrHAexSibFUdaDEAHRbkGwDo
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[16:25:05] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> I'm kind of curious about whether "don't trust the product" applies
both to "we protected against this" and also to "this is a problem",
but it doesn't really seem relevant here.
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[16:30:26] <Eliot Lear> Give that man a leadership position!
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[16:52:58] <Eric Burger> Barry: can you ask Ian to hold the mic consistently close? When he does the bob thing with his hands he fades
[16:53:05] <Eric Burger> (One Fed to a partner ;-))
[16:53:48] <Barry Leiba> I'll watch him...
[16:53:57] <Barry Leiba> In the room, it sounds consistent.
[16:54:02] <Eric Burger> Thanks. He has gotten better on his own.
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[16:56:50] <Eliot Lear> my experience: food that tastes good is the stuff that kills ya
[16:57:19] <sftcd> where is the thunder that was stolen? (for this audience)
[16:58:15] <andrew > Speaking only for myself, I am not totally convinced that the solution to "BGP sucks" is "centralize everything in one giant place and Make Sure It's Nice There"
[16:58:33] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Wait, isn't the party line "RPKI"?
[16:59:07] <Eliot Lear> he's really got the greatest hits of our greatest problems
[16:59:50] <andrew > That's not what that slide said.  "Get everyone to peer in one place and check that that peering is safe".  I assume some of that is RPKI, but I haven't studied their plan in detail.  (Glancing slightly at my hat, I am more hopeful about MANRS, but that's still just my personal opinion.)
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[17:08:11] <Eric Burger> Academic networks are by tradition super open, and vulnerable
[17:08:25] <Eric Burger> And, they often connect to military / government networks
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[17:08:29] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Academic freedom to run 20-year-old buggy software
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[17:09:10] <Mirja Kühlewind> IT department jobs are also not well paid in public organizations I guess
[17:09:35] <Eric Burger> That, too
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[17:12:20] <Eric Burger> me, me, me, me!!!
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