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[19:22:50] <Meetecho> there's a problem with a dead switch in the room
[19:22:57] <Meetecho> which broke our streams
[19:23:01] <Meetecho> working on this as I type
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[19:24:26] <Gunnar Hellstrom> OK, hope to see you soon
[19:26:53] <Natasha Rooney (schuki)> if you can not hear anything please let me know
[19:27:00] <Gunnar Hellstrom> Is this chat displayed in the room?
[19:27:11] <Gunnar Hellstrom> Right, I hear nothing
[19:27:25] <Meetecho> restoring the streams now
[19:27:32] <Bernard Aboba> I could not join the jabber room...
[19:27:34] <Nik Tomkinson> I can't see or hear anything from the room
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[19:27:39] <Nik Tomkinson> ah, sound now ok
[19:27:43] <Gunnar Hellstrom> Good fine now
[19:27:45] <Bernard Aboba> It is slim@jabber.ietf.org, no?
[19:27:52] <Meetecho> cool! working on video now...
[19:27:55] <Brian Rosen> yes
[19:28:06] <Bernard Aboba> I have audio now, but no slides or video
[19:28:17] <Nik Tomkinson> me too, just audio
[19:28:25] <Brian Rosen> they seem to be working on that
[19:28:29] <Nik Tomkinson> ok
[19:28:31] <Meetecho> they should appear any minute
[19:28:37] <Nik Tomkinson> video now ok
[19:28:49] <Brian Rosen> i will jabber scribe.  Please preface anything you want me to relay to the room with mic:
[19:29:01] <Meetecho> speaker should be back, still working on slides
[19:29:04] <Brian Rosen> hopefully meetecho will have everything workimg very soon
[19:29:30] <Meetecho> ok, back to normal
[19:29:41] <Meetecho> can you all get slides+video+audio?
[19:30:29] <Bernard Aboba> I do not see slides or video.
[19:30:39] <Bernard Aboba> Can I get audio, though.
[19:31:25] <Bernard Aboba> Hearing a lot of echo from Nik.
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[19:40:01] <Bernard Aboba> Now I am seeing slides (only after leaving presenter mode).
[19:41:47] <Meetecho> Bernard Aboba: actually presenter mode shouldn't prevent you to see slides, my guess is that there was a different issue causing the problem
[19:42:04] <Meetecho> since you joined as participant, you'll have to use the hand icon and get in queue when it's your turn to present
[19:42:07] <Meetecho> the chair will unmute you
[19:42:19] <Bernard Aboba> That is fine.
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[19:45:50] <Bernard Aboba> We are seeing the slides.
[19:46:20] <Paul Kyzivat> I see Gunnar's slides
[19:46:24] <Bernard Aboba> I am seeing the slides.
[19:46:27] <Nik Tomkinson> just gone
[19:46:40] <Bernard Aboba> We are on the first slide (title).
[19:46:40] <Nik Tomkinson> I could a minute ago
[19:46:54] <Bernard Aboba> Second slide (ETSI reference)
[19:47:23] <Paul Kyzivat> No page numbers. Shame on Gunnar!
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[19:48:34] <Bernard Aboba> Third slide (Use cases to support)
[19:49:15] <Bernard Aboba> mic:  If ETSI is referencing use cases, do we need to publish that document?
[19:55:27] <Meetecho> Note to chairs: Bernard in virtual queue
[19:55:31] <Bernard Aboba> I agree with Brian on grouping - but wonder if there is a simpler alternative.
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[19:56:45] <Nik Tomkinson> There is a hum button
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[19:58:33] <Bernard Aboba> mic: Can't "order of importance" also be applied to the new attributes?  Does that provide any value without the complexity of grouping?
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[20:10:15] <Bernard Aboba> mic:  Question to Brian:  what is your thinking on alternatives to grouping?  Ordering?
[20:12:17] <Bernard Aboba> mic:  Do we have a way of deciding what use cases we need to solve, and which ones are optional?  Do we have a way of coming to consensus on what use cases we actually do solve (e.g. without grouping)?
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[20:19:11] <Bernard Aboba> mic:  Randall makes an important point.  Extraneous media is not a problem.
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[20:24:03] <Nik Tomkinson> Thanks bye
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