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[15:56:37] <alessandro amirante> Slide 1: SIPREC
[15:56:55] <alessandro amirante> Slide 2: Intro
[15:57:45] <alessandro amirante> Slide 3: Issues Identified
[15:59:17] <alessandro amirante> Slide 4: How much detail to record?
[16:03:26] <alessandro amirante> Slide 5: Recording CS REPORT messages
[16:04:33] <saghul> thanks scribes!
[16:09:22] <alessandro amirante> Slide 6: Recording MSRP Errors
[16:11:22] <alessandro amirante> Slide 7: Recording CS MSRP URIs
[16:12:45] saghul has nop audio, sorry
[16:13:00] <saghul> are SIP record route headers recorded?
[16:13:23] <saghul> MSRP URIs could mean the same, in case the CS uses an outgoing relay
[16:13:40] <coopdanger> do you want that at the mic saghul?
[16:13:41] <alessandro amirante> Slide 8: Distinguishing CPIM wrappers added by SR
[16:13:57] <saghul> coopdanger: please
[16:19:24] <alessandro amirante> Slide 7: Recording CS MSRP URIs
[16:20:08] <alessandro amirante> Slide 8: Distinguishing CPIM wrappers added by SR
[16:20:09] <alessandro amirante> Slide 9: When adding CPIM, what From/To URIs
[16:20:31] <saghul> about slide 8: if Alice, Bob and Carol are chatting on a MSRP switch, which is acting a SRC, if Alice sends a message to the room, the switch send it to Bob, so
[16:20:42] <saghul> what do we record in that case?
[16:21:01] <saghul> ie, Alice sent a message to who? (who is the sender / recipient in the recorder CPIM)
[16:21:32] <coopdanger> do you want that at the mic?
[16:21:34] <Rosen, Brian> the SRC sees a message from Alice
[16:21:40] <coopdanger> thanks
[16:21:41] <Rosen, Brian> so it records that
[16:21:58] <Rosen, Brian> it's from Alice, sent to the room
[16:22:02] <saghul> coopdanger: yes, please
[16:22:11] <coopdanger> brian is responding
[16:22:26] <saghul> but the room then dispatched it, if people join later they didn't get it
[16:22:51] <Rosen, Brian> The recording shows what the room saw at the time the room saw it
[16:23:21] <Rosen, Brian> The only thing it wouldn't record correctly is where there is a failure of a send or a recieve
[16:23:28] <saghul> then there is no way to know who got the message at a givem point in time just by looking at the recording, right?
[16:23:54] <Rosen, Brian> There is a thought there we need to capture
[16:24:01] <Rosen, Brian> I'll raise it in the room
[16:24:30] <Rosen, Brian> this is a group chat membership change issue
[16:24:35] <saghul> Thanks! IMHO we need to record what the room sends and to whom, the CPIM wrapper-wrapper helps in this case
[16:24:50] <Rosen, Brian> for an audio conference, we would caputure that with the conference roster mechanism
[16:24:59] <Rosen, Brian> we need an analog for that
[16:25:53] <saghul> RFC4575?
[16:26:13] <alessandro amirante> Slide 10: Preserving MESSAGE-IDs
[16:26:16] <Rosen, Brian> so, same mechanism
[16:26:19] <saghul> IIRC draft-simple-chat uses that for participant list
[16:26:26] <saghul> so, save i
[16:26:40] <saghul> snapshots of the roster? that would work
[16:26:56] <Rosen, Brian> yeah, that's it
[16:32:08] <alessandro amirante> Slide 11: Compatibility of max-size on CS and RS
[16:38:22] <alessandro amirante> Slide 12: How to handle nicknames
[16:45:36] <alessandro amirante> Slide 13: The End
[16:47:22] <saghul> was any idea for the nicknames preferred?
[16:48:50] <Rosen, Brian> no not really
[16:49:13] <Rosen, Brian> we're mostly thinking about the issues.  Ben said he had to think about some more
[16:49:27] <saghul> thanks!
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