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[06:49:06] sure [06:49:09] my browser died and I lost it [06:49:11] http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec [06:49:15] thx [06:49:26] :) [06:51:17] admin joins the room [06:51:18] admin leaves the room [06:52:48] admin joins the room [06:52:49] admin leaves the room [06:53:00] alexietf43 joins the room [06:53:29] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm [06:54:25] dburnett438 joins the room [06:55:57] Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt [06:56:43] slide 1 [06:56:55] Your chairs are John Elwell and Brian Rosen :) [06:58:05] can you hear us, remote folks? [06:58:27] Brian is talking [06:58:27] alessandro783 joins the room [06:59:01] Loud and clear - from remote [06:59:05] NOTE WELL slide -- if you talk or type, it's a contribution, etc. [06:59:21] tomkri655 joins the room [06:59:23] slide 3 [06:59:29] slide 4 [07:00:20] slide 5 [07:01:06] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt [07:01:10] slide 6 [07:01:11] Jacky Yao (Health Yao) joins the room [07:02:21] switching to Requirements presentation [07:02:22] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-3.pptx [07:02:30] slide 1 [07:02:32] slide 2 [07:02:57] slide 3 [07:03:08] tcastaldi664 joins the room [07:03:37] slide 4 [07:03:48] hildjj joins the room [07:04:32] Hadriel Kaplan joins the room [07:04:35] slide 5 [07:04:48] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-3.pptx [07:05:30] slide 6 [07:06:20] slide 7 [07:07:21] Switching to Architecture, Andy Hutton presenting [07:07:24] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-2.ppt [07:07:57] slide 1 [07:08:06] slide 2 [07:08:51] slide 3 [07:08:57] slide 2 [07:09:18] slide 3 [07:10:38] Partha at mic [07:10:56] shida joins the room [07:11:00] hildjj leaves the room [07:11:06] hildjj joins the room [07:11:50] victor.pascual.avila joins the room [07:12:50] spromano404 joins the room [07:12:53] slide 4 [07:13:11] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-2.ppt [07:13:44] slide 5 [07:15:02] hildjj leaves the room [07:15:18] slide 6 [07:16:18] slide 7 [07:16:28] hildjj joins the room [07:17:54] hadriel kaplan at mic [07:18:31] can you remote folks hear john and hadriel okay? [07:18:56] Keith Drage at mic [07:19:37] slide 8 [07:20:10] slide 9 [07:20:53] slide 10 [07:20:59] oops, no slide 10 [07:21:51] Switching to metadata model, Partha [07:21:54] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-0.ppt [07:22:42] Presenter is Parthasarathi Ravindran [07:22:53] slide 2 [07:22:56] slide 3 [07:23:09] slide 4 [07:23:28] slide 5 [07:25:14] alessandro783 leaves the room [07:25:32] Paul Kyzivat at mic [07:26:20] alessandro783 joins the room [07:26:28] alessandro783 leaves the room [07:27:50] stpeter joins the room [07:27:59] confused looks on some faces at John's summary [07:28:06] Joe Hildebrand at mic [07:28:15] Paul again at mic [07:28:20] Paul Kyzivat [07:28:34] alessandro783 joins the room [07:28:40] stpeter has set the subject to: SIPREC WG | http://tools.ietf.org/wg/siprec/ [07:28:52] Brian Rosen from the front [07:29:03] some general nods in the room [07:29:25] The chairs should talk a bit more closeer to the mic ;-) [07:29:26] Charles Eckel at mic [07:29:47] thx spromano [07:29:50] patrickmourot804 joins the room [07:29:53] will relay [07:30:00] ...sorry, just closer. [07:30:17] shida leaves the room [07:30:17] shida joins the room [07:30:21] joe hildebrand at mic [07:30:46] hadriel kaplan at mic [07:33:17] Paul Kyzivat at mic [07:33:54] slide 6 [07:34:47] nods in response to John's comments [07:35:23] slide 7 [07:37:28] Hendrik Scholz joins the room [07:37:40] brian rosen from the front [07:37:48] hadriel kaplan at the mic [07:38:12] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-0.ppt [07:38:17] on slide 7 [07:38:57] slide 8 [07:39:42] John Elwell as individual [07:39:58] patrickmourot804 leaves the room [07:40:03] patrickmourot804 joins the room [07:40:27] Paul Kyzivat at mic [07:41:20] that was Brian Rosen interjecting from the front [07:42:12] Gonzalo joins the room [07:42:15] Brian Rosen from the front [07:42:31] spromano, can you hear Brian okay? [07:42:54] slide 9 [07:43:41] In the rtsp stream they are the only ones who cannot be heard correctly...their volume is a bit too low. [07:43:54] What is the meetecho link? [07:43:56] okay [07:43:58] I am just checking this for remote participants... [07:44:05] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-0.ppt [07:44:22] we are on slide 9, Gonzalo [07:44:25] best scribe ever! :) [07:44:48] GonzaloCamarillo10 joins the room [07:45:14] Yes, I am in the SIPREC room. [07:45:30] I just wanted to send the meetecho link to the codec guys because we have two RAI meetings in parallel. [07:45:38] ah, right [07:45:50] I asked the chairs beforehand if anyone from the other RAI session needed to monitor [07:46:01] they weren't aware of anyone [07:46:13] so I haven't been doing detailed stream of consciousness scribing [07:46:24] do you think we need that, Gonzalo, or is meetecho good enough? [07:46:32] slide 10 [07:46:59] To be clear, I think meetecho is perfect for anyone in the CODEC meeting wanting to monitor what is going on here as well. [07:47:11] me too :-) [07:47:12] okay [07:47:35] it requires an ability to listen, which sometimes isn't feasible [07:47:41] Especially if Partha stops walking on the audio mixer cable while presenting!! [07:47:43] Ken Rehor at mic [07:47:51] :) [07:48:15] Problem solved! [07:48:36] (ignore my background spoken comments about Partha on the cable ... ) [07:49:05] slide 11 [07:49:31] Peter St Andre at mic [07:49:48] Peter is confused :) [07:50:17] next presentation is on metadata format, still Partha presenting [07:50:32] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-1.ppt [07:50:43] slide 2 [07:51:21] For completeness, presenter is Parthasarathi Ravindran [07:51:27] slide 3 [07:52:27] slide 4 [07:54:29] (dumb question -i've not been following this closely- *when* is the metadata generated/transmitted?) [07:54:52] Leon Portman at mic [07:55:34] Paul Kyzivat at mic next (Brian Rosen talking from front) [07:55:41] queue formed rapidly [07:55:56] hildjj leaves the room: Disconnected. [07:56:04] Paul talking [07:56:18] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [07:58:34] Joe Hildebrand at mic [07:58:46] can you hear joe remotely -- sounds quiet in room [07:59:03] no... [07:59:12] The mic for questions is not working anymore, I'm afraid. [07:59:21] Quite quiet here too [07:59:37] just switched mics [07:59:44] Good [07:59:49] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:00:03] No mic for the presenter! [08:00:08] Finally :-) [08:00:12] hildjj joins the room [08:00:27] the wireless mics are great but the batteries run out fairly regularly -- we'll get a second mic working eventually [08:00:46] Hadriel Kaplan at mic next [08:02:08] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-1.ppt [08:02:19] still on slide 4 [08:02:42] showing slide 5, but not on it yet [08:03:06] now discussing slide 5 [08:03:44] slide 6 [08:03:52] and now 7 [08:04:44] slide 8 [08:05:28] slide 9 [08:05:44] slide 10 [08:06:11] slide 11 [08:06:29] victor, i don't have an answer for you -- can someone else answer victor's question? [08:07:10] slide 12 [08:07:54] We can perhaps ask Partha... [08:08:05] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:08:29] hildjj leaves the room: Disconnected. [08:08:46] sorry victor, did you want your question at the mic? I failed to ask at the time . . . [08:10:05] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:11:00] Hadriel is nodding [08:11:26] Joe Hildebrand at mic [08:12:20] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:12:42] (oh no, I'm in the meeting room. I was just wondering...) [08:12:46] lots of nodding [08:13:03] okay victor. i had thought that was a question for the chat. [08:13:29] will take this to the ML ;-) [08:13:39] Joe Hildebrand at mic [08:14:01] Joe and Hadriel are talking [08:14:08] they have given up or sometihng [08:14:15] slide 13 [08:14:44] slide 14 [08:14:52] hildjj joins the room [08:14:59] slide 15 [08:15:17] slide 16 [08:15:23] back to 15 [08:15:41] Hadriel, are you assuming that there's only ever one network element inserting data on behalf of a given session? [08:15:50] slide 16 [08:16:50] Brian Rosen from the front [08:17:05] Joe Hildebrand at the mic [08:18:17] Paul Kyzivat at the mic [08:18:41] Joe: nope [08:19:45] Peter St. Andre at the mic [08:19:51] hildjj leaves the room [08:20:01] hildjj joins the room [08:21:29] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:21:47] Joe Hildebrand at mic [08:22:18] Peter St Andre at mic [08:23:12] slide 17 [08:24:02] slide 18 [08:25:06] John Elwell as an individual [08:27:23] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:29:46] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:31:15] Leon Portman at mic [08:33:21] slide 19 [08:33:47] John Elwell talking from the front (for anyone who's lost track) [08:33:48] GonzaloCamarillo10 leaves the room [08:34:56] slide 20 [08:35:22] skipping to slide 23 [08:36:03] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:36:52] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:39:38] switching to next presentation, on the Protocol [08:39:40] Meetecho is at http://meetecho.comics.unina.it/WebLite/login.jsp?ietf=siprec Agenda is http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/agenda/siprec.htm Agenda slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-5.ppt Current slides are http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/siprec-4.pptx [08:39:46] Presenter is Leon Portman [08:39:53] alessandro783 leaves the room [08:40:19] slide 2 [08:40:22] hildjj leaves the room: Disconnected. [08:40:34] alessandro783 joins the room [08:41:13] slide 3 [08:42:19] slide 4 [08:42:32] jumped the gun -- still on 3 [08:42:41] slide 4 [08:43:04] hildjj joins the room [08:43:38] Partha at mic [08:44:29] Brian said "that's his (Partha's) point" [08:45:07] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:47:13] queue forming rapidly [08:47:18] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:47:48] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:48:20] Hadriel, Paul, and Andy are all ho [08:48:23] vering around the mic [08:48:34] Hadriel is winning at the moment [08:48:53] Charles Eckel at mic [08:49:28] Partha at mic [08:49:34] still on slide 4, btw [08:50:18] slide 5 [08:50:23] back to 4 [08:50:46] Charles said "both snapshot and refresh" [08:50:49] slide 5 [08:51:01] That was Charles Eckel [08:51:23] hildjj leaves the room [08:51:59] Hadriel is laughing in the back [08:52:03] Charles Eckel at mic [08:52:15] s/back/back of the room/ [08:52:30] hildjj joins the room [08:52:34] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:53:15] Partha at mic [08:55:03] shida leaves the room [08:55:07] Partha talking to Brian [08:55:15] John Elwell from the front [08:55:59] Partha still at the mic [08:56:02] Paul Kyzivat at mic [08:56:34] Partha and Hadriel are hovering near the mic [08:56:49] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [08:59:21] Partha at mic [09:00:15] Paul Kyzivat at mic [09:01:19] Brian said "I don't remember" in answer to Paul's question [09:01:25] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [09:01:30] whoops [09:01:31] not yet [09:02:33] Jacky Yao (Health Yao) leaves the room [09:02:49] Hadriel Kaplan at mic now [09:04:49] Leon Portman at mic [09:04:57] I mean Charles Eckel [09:05:07] Fingers getting tired, I guess [09:05:23] Jacky Yao (Health Yao) joins the room [09:06:53] Gonzalo Camarillo at mic [09:07:08] He says he's seen some divergence there [09:07:19] You're doing a great work, burn! [09:07:20] slide 6 [09:08:52] John Elwell from the front [09:09:04] Paul Kyzivat at the mic [09:10:45] Andy Hutton at the mic [09:11:34] Charles Eckel at mic [09:12:42] slide 7 [09:14:30] Brian Rosen from the front [09:15:49] slide 8 [09:16:34] Charles Eckel at mic [09:17:36] Hadriel Kaplan at mic [09:17:45] Charles said from the back that he's fine with media level [09:18:37] Hadriel says it doesn't belong in SDP [09:18:44] Paul Kyzivat at mic [09:20:03] slideu 9 [09:21:57] Partha at mic [09:22:45] Much chuckling in the room [09:22:51] more like cackling, actually [09:23:03] Jacky Yao (Health Yao) leaves the room [09:23:15] hildjj leaves the room: Disconnected. [09:23:25] whew, done with these slides [09:24:13] Gonzalo leaves the room [09:25:15] victor.pascual.avila leaves the room [09:25:25] patrickmourot804 leaves the room [09:25:34] Hadriel Kaplan leaves the room [09:25:41] FYI, a comprehensive recording of this session will soon be made available on http://ietf.conf.meetecho.com/ [09:26:05] meeting concludes [09:26:15] alessandro783 leaves the room [09:26:20] tcastaldi664 leaves the room [09:26:20] tomkri655 leaves the room [09:26:22] burn_: "Remote thanks" for good scribing! 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