- Thursday, March 6, 2014

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Thursday, March 6, 2014< ^ >

martin.thomson has set the subject to: SIPCORE | Minutes Pad http://etherpad.com/6nrLc0iakO

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[13:00:47] <Olle E. Johansson> Welcome to sipcore!
[13:00:55] <Olle E. Johansson> Are you remote Tom?
[13:01:04] <tomkrist> I'm remote!
[13:01:35] <Olle E. Johansson> Ok then
[13:02:13] <Olle E. Johansson> The IETF Note Well applies to remote participation too. Please read and understand. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well.html
[13:02:44] <tomkrist> Read ant noted :)
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[13:02:48] <Olle E. Johansson> Agenda: https://tools.ietf.org/wg/sipcore/agenda
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[13:05:09] <Olle E. Johansson> Audio working ok?
[13:05:20] <tomkrist> Audio is fine!
[13:05:28] <Olle E. Johansson> I will need another one to scribe when I'm talking.
[13:05:37] <Olle E. Johansson> Thank you for the confirmation, Tom!
[13:05:51] <Olle E. Johansson> Presentation: SIP Digest Access Authentication
[13:05:55] <Olle E. Johansson> Rifaat
[13:06:03] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #2 - Alg agility
[13:06:14] <Olle E. Johansson> "MD5 has been broken for a very long time"
[13:06:31] <Olle E. Johansson> Cullen Jennings speaking
[13:06:46] <Olle E. Johansson> States that HMAC MD5 is not broken, but we are still worried
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[13:08:20] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide: HTTP Digest Hash Algs #3
[13:08:30] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #4 - Forking
[13:10:24] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #5 Forking backward compatibility
[13:11:49] <Olle E. Johansson> Adam interrupted from chair table
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[13:15:31] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #7 - feedback
[13:15:54] <Olle E. Johansson> Cullen Jennings trying to speak
[13:16:28] <Olle E. Johansson> Paul Kyzivat and Hadriel Kaplan in line
[13:16:52] <Olle E. Johansson> That is a big change
[13:21:11] <Olle E. Johansson> Paul speaking
[13:21:33] <Olle E. Johansson> No chair hat on
[13:23:33] <Olle E. Johansson> Do we want the UAC to be able to downgrade?
[13:23:47] <Olle E. Johansson> I don't think we should offer multiple challenges from a server
[13:23:59] <Olle E. Johansson> hadriel kaplan
[13:25:57] <Olle E. Johansson> http://kamailio.org/docs/modules/4.1.x/modules/auth.html#auth.p.qop
[13:26:03] <Olle E. Johansson> We do support QoP in Kamailio
[13:27:06] <Olle E. Johansson> Hadriel supports adding a new header name
[13:27:27] <tomkrist> Hopefully, most UAs do support qop
[13:27:37] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith Drage speaking
[13:29:05] <Olle E. Johansson> Cullen speaking
[13:29:42] <Olle E. Johansson> A new thing needs new headers
[13:30:16] <Olle E. Johansson> SASL is one way to add thousands of documents to the SIP pile
[13:32:03] <Olle E. Johansson> The OpenBTS is using another algorithm in their SIP2GSM gateways
[13:32:09] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith Drage
[13:32:23] <Olle E. Johansson> Adam Roach speaking as chair
[13:32:44] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith Drage speaking
[13:32:51] <Olle E. Johansson> Martin Thomson next in line
[13:33:55] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allen next
[13:35:06] <Olle E. Johansson> Cullen speaking
[13:36:46] <Olle E. Johansson> Paul speaking from chairs desk
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[13:38:19] <Jonathan Lennox> I will watch Jabber while Olle speaks
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[13:50:03] <Jonathan Lennox> (Sorry for not logging speakers)
[13:51:20] <tomkrist> (I recognize the voices. No harm ;) )
[13:52:53] <Jonathan Lennox> Ask if you don't recognize anyone.
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[14:09:25] <Olle E. Johansson> Next presentation - Adam Roach
[14:10:28] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #2 Background
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[14:10:48] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #3 - But refer is special, right?
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[14:11:31] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #5
[14:11:37] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #6
[14:11:58] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide #7
[14:12:40] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide 10
[14:13:14] <Olle E. Johansson> (The presentation is made from an Ipad that gives Adam some issues)
[14:13:18] <Olle E. Johansson> Slid #11
[14:13:54] <Olle E. Johansson> Slide 12
[14:14:24] <Olle E. Johansson> "walled gardens grow doors"
[14:15:32] <Olle E. Johansson> Hadriel Kaplan speaking having missed a thread at the SIPcore mailing list
[14:16:25] <Olle E. Johansson> Multiple Dialog usages are a mess - Adam
[14:18:39] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allan speaking
[14:19:27] <Olle E. Johansson> Doesn't the first NOTIFY create a dialog nowadays?
[14:20:49] <Olle E. Johansson> REFERbis
[14:21:19] <Olle E. Johansson> Christer HOlmberg speaking
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[14:23:22] <Olle E. Johansson> (The laugh was because we now see half of slide #11 and half of slide #12 on the screen)
[14:25:14] <Olle E. Johansson> Christer still at mic
[14:26:00] <Olle E. Johansson> ReferFerFerFerFerFer
[14:26:03] <Olle E. Johansson> A new method
[14:26:31] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith Drage speaking
[14:27:22] <Olle E. Johansson> Hadriel speaking
[14:28:04] <Olle E. Johansson> "There is confusion, and the way we solve that is to publish new documents"
[14:28:21] <Olle E. Johansson> Andew Allen speaking
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[14:31:51] <Olle E. Johansson> Hadriel Kaplan still around the mic. Will he speak?
[14:32:07] <tomkrist> 100% sure it will happen
[14:32:19] <Olle E. Johansson> You won, Tom.
[14:34:03] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allen speaking
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[14:34:53] <Olle E. Johansson> Christer speaking
[14:36:16] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allen speaking
[14:36:21] <Olle E. Johansson> Robert Sparks next in line
[14:37:13] <Olle E. Johansson> Adam was forced to volonteer by RJS
[14:37:39] <Olle E. Johansson> "Can-Of-Worming" - new word to me
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[14:37:44] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith Drage speaking
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[14:38:11] <Olle E. Johansson> Cullen Jennings
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[14:38:27] <Olle E. Johansson> Christer speaking
[14:39:13] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allen next
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[14:39:36] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew speaking
[14:40:51] <Olle E. Johansson> Magic Feature tags are not wanted in SIP
[14:41:13] <Olle E. Johansson> Christer speaks
[14:41:48] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allen speaks
[14:42:42] <Olle E. Johansson> RJS speaking
[14:43:29] <Olle E. Johansson> How many subscriptions do we need in a UAC?
[14:43:32] <Olle E. Johansson> Andrew Allen
[14:43:39] <Olle E. Johansson> Mary Barnes was speaking briefly
[14:43:47] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith Drage in line
[14:43:53] <Olle E. Johansson> Keith speaking
[14:44:32] <Olle E. Johansson> Assumed subscriptions are bad
[14:44:37] <Olle E. Johansson> Cullen Jennings speaking
[14:45:20] <Olle E. Johansson> "I dont want to design by microphone" - Adam
[14:46:34] <Olle E. Johansson> We are about to wrap up this meeting.
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[14:47:07] <Olle E. Johansson> Cookie time
[14:47:14] <tomkrist> Thanks for great jabber scribing, Olle!
[14:47:20] <tomkrist> Enjoy your cookies...
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