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[23:37:08] <cyrus> Hi Ned.
[23:37:19] <cyrus> Will do a quick audio test for you.
[23:37:33] <Ned Freed> I've been listening to the previous group in the room
[23:37:37] <Ned Freed> Yes, it is working fine.
[23:37:40] <cyrus> OK, great.
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[23:40:00] <alexey.melnikov> Hello
[23:40:32] alexey.melnikov has set the subject to: Sieve WG meeting in Minneapolis
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[23:43:27] <aaronstone> Hello
[23:43:30] <alexey.melnikov> Can people read what I am typing
[23:43:33] <aaronstone> yes
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[23:45:25] <alexey.melnikov> Kurt is going to scribe
[23:45:33] <alexey.melnikov> When he finishes his milk :-)
[23:46:13] <kdz> Document status... notify-mailto scheduled for IESG telechat
[23:46:35] <kdz> refuse-reject to be discussed, as well as others
[23:47:05] <kdz> MIME Loops
[23:47:35] <kdz> alexey has one issue
[23:48:36] <kdz> alexey: nigel raised concerning enclose.
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[23:49:06] <kdz> tony: last one wins
[23:49:10] <Ned Freed> Haven''t implemented this yet so really cannot say
[23:51:01] <kdz> tony: need to decide one way or the other, he doesn't care which way.
[23:51:11] <kdz> barry: use cases
[23:51:21] <kdz> s/cases/cases?/
[23:52:05] <kdz> Barry notes that decision should be based more on desired user experience than implementation ease.
[23:53:49] <kdz> Alexey: document needs to be updated such that enclose causes an enclosure on each call.
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[23:54:16] <Barry Leiba> Whoever put out the chocolate mints: thanks.  :-D
[23:54:46] <alexey.melnikov> Talking about iHave now
[23:54:50] <kdz> reject/ereject
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[23:58:56] <kdz> return-path examples?
[23:59:53] <kdz> barry, text should be more clear that hands are waving