sidr - Friday, November 6, 2015

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Friday, November 6, 2015< ^ >

rhansen has set the subject to: SIDR (Secure Inter-Domain Routing)

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[00:00:53] <Steve Kent> Steve is ready
[00:00:57] <christopher.morrow> ok, cool.
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[00:02:39] <Di Ma> video not published?
[00:02:55] <hardaker> should be
[00:02:59] <hardaker> is it not working?
[00:03:09] <hardaker> camera is on
[00:03:13] <rhansen> working for me
[00:03:24] <Steve Kent> workin for me too
[00:03:24] <russ> meetecho session name is SIDR_II
[00:03:32] <christopher.morrow> should just be either slides or very small chair people at this point.
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[00:03:37] <rhansen> http://www.meetecho.com/ietf94/sidr_II
[00:03:43] <Meetecho> we updated the links so that sidr would work too
[00:03:51] <rhansen> etherpad: http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9000/p/notes-ietf-94-sidr?showControls=true&showChat=true&showLineNumbers=true&useMonospaceFont=true
[00:03:52] <Meetecho> considering it caused some confusion in previous sessions
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[00:04:11] <russ> The link on the tools agenda page worked fine for me
[00:04:26] <Meetecho> (y)
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[00:04:38] <rhansen> if it's ok for remote participants to take minutes, i will do minutes in the etherpad
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[00:04:55] <hardaker> I'll be scribing today, so if anyone has comments you want relayed at the microphone please prefix your note with "MIC:" so I can distinguish it from regular room banter.
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[00:07:49] <hardaker> moving to steve ken'ts slides.
[00:07:55] <hardaker> update of the adverse actions document
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[00:10:06] <hardaker> slide
[00:10:18] <hardaker> 3
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[00:35:18] <Russ Mundy> MIC:  I support doing the work to describe what we know about problems & threats even though it may turn out to be incomplete - it's better to define what we know than ignore it.  With that approach, I support WG adoption
[00:35:51] <hardaker> k
[00:40:04] <hardaker> Randy speaking, but he doesn't have slides
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[00:48:44] <hardaker> Starting Yu Fu's slides
[00:48:58] <hardaker> draft-fu-sidr-unexpected-scenarios
[00:49:52] <hardaker> slide 2
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[00:59:28] <hardaker> back to 6
[01:14:45] <hardaker> Sandy's slides, #2
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[01:20:39] <Steve Kent> MIC: Unless the yanking is a suprise by A, the subordinate CAs in your example could have reissued certs to subordinates to prevent this problem.
[01:22:23] <hardaker> moving on to the ...validation... slides
[01:22:35] <hardaker> silde 2
[01:23:17] <Steve Kent> MIC: moeover, the revised step 6 in validatoon reconsidered I-D does NOT achieve the effect you state, because the CA certs along the path fail the resoutce emcompassing test (as stated). That revised step seems to work only for EE certs
[01:23:53] <hardaker> ok, can I let Chris go on or do you want that now?
[01:24:00] <Steve Kent> I can wait.
[01:24:05] <hardaker> ok
[01:24:06] <hardaker> 3
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[01:25:04] <hardaker> who is "you" in that sentence Steve?
[01:27:31] <Steve Kent> nevermimd, I'll use my mic to comment, soon
[01:27:45] <hardaker> ok
[01:28:00] <hardaker> that sentence was a bit out of date.
[01:28:19] <hardaker> let me know when you're ready and I'll put you in the line.  there is a line now.
[01:28:30] <Steve Kent> I want to be in line now
[01:28:41] <hardaker> you're after doug.
[01:35:39] <Steve Kent> i want to be in the mic line again
[01:35:48] <hardaker> ok, you're after Tim.
[01:36:03] <hardaker> (who is after Geoff)
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[01:40:58] <hardaker> slide 5
[01:41:41] <aretana> Steve: you should be able to put yourself in the line through Meetecho.  The chairs can then see you on their screen.  [Of course, Wes is doing a good job.]
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[01:45:02] <Meetecho> aretana: no need for him to do that
[01:45:11] <Meetecho> he joined as presenter which means he can unmute at will any time
[01:45:29] <Meetecho> that's why he's getting in line through Jabber: to know when he can safely unmute
[01:45:37] <aretana> ACK
[01:45:56] <hardaker> I'll notice faster probably too :-)
[01:46:03] <Meetecho> :)
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[01:49:52] <hardaker> siled change "some observations on the current state of RPKI"
[01:51:18] <Steve Kent> sound is dropping out
[01:51:31] <hardaker> might be local to you.
[01:51:36] <Steve Kent> OK
[01:51:41] <hardaker> can anyone else remote state if they're ok?
[01:52:04] <rhansen> minor drop-outs, but not sure if my path is all that independent from steve's
[01:52:14] <Di Ma> it works for me in China
[01:52:31] <hardaker> soundslike a standard routing attack.  ha.
[01:52:36] <David Mandelberg (xmpp)> minor drop-outs for me too, but I'm two offices down from rhansen
[01:54:37] <Steve Kent> I'm at home, so there is some path independence
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[01:55:55] <Russ Mundy> thanks to Wes & the meetecho folk - the remote worked well for me
[01:56:00] <hardaker> :-)
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[01:56:24] <Meetecho> Russ Mundy: glad we could be of help!
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