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cabo has set the subject to: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-112-sedate
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[20:01:14] <Kenneth Murchison_web_834> We can hear you Mark
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[20:03:05] <Ujjwal Sharma_web_829> can you try switching browsers?
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[20:04:36] <Carsten Bormann_web_702> I also uploaded an updated slide deck
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[20:09:46] <Bron Gondwana_web_136> https://notes.ietf.org/R_semc9xRrGWurC1z05x4Q
[20:10:24] <Carsten Bormann_web_702> https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-sedate-02-sedate
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[20:12:34] <Ujjwal Sharma_web_829> nice shirt Bron
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[20:13:32] <Ujjwal Sharma_web_829> thanks for the update
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[20:43:15] <John C Klensin> @Michael: yes, exactly.   And "useful:" can often be determined only after the fact.
[20:44:37] <Kenneth Murchison_web_834> +1 to removing namespaces
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[20:46:29] <John C Klensin> Strngly encourage people reading RFC 6838, which provides a complete map of the rat holes that this discusson walks along the edges of ... including namespaces
[20:53:55] <John C Klensin> I would hope that whatever we do does not need to be as complicated and option-filled as media types.  But it does lay out many of the options and a way of handling tham that has mostly worked for a long tme.
[21:06:54] <John C Klensin> You could, .e.,g use curly rather than square braces.  Not subtle at all.  And, yes, I'm probably joking.  I hope.
[21:10:27] <Carsten Bormann_web_702> John: I had exactly the same idea.  And I'm not joking...
[21:10:50] <Kenneth Murchison_web_834> As did I
[21:10:53] <Ujjwal Sharma_web_798> uhhhhh
[21:11:06] <Ujjwal Sharma_web_798> me too, should we think more seriously about this?
[21:11:27] <John C Klensin> Happy to be in the rough on this.  But,  again, I think the key is to do something not-subtle
[21:12:30] <John C Klensin> I am, however, a bit concerned about depending on the use of characters that don't appear in ISO 646 BV
[21:15:42] <Carsten Bormann_web_702> Is that thing still alive?
[21:16:53] <John C Klensin> I was more concerned about the repertoire than the specific standards, but, short-answer is "yes", sadly
[21:17:02] <Ujjwal Sharma_web_798> does 3 AM count? :P
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