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kadukoafs@gmail.com/barnowl9AFE8B38 has set the subject to: SecEvent IETF 98 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/materials#secevent
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[05:41:18] =JeffH joins the room
[05:41:29] <=JeffH> phil hunt presenting
[05:41:51] <=JeffH> Security Event Token (SET)
[05:43:21] <=JeffH> slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-secevent-set-events/
[05:43:36] <=JeffH> now on slide 3
[05:43:40] <=JeffH> "background"
[05:44:29] <=JeffH> slide 4
[05:44:41] <=JeffH> "set examples"
[05:47:26] <=JeffH> slide 5 - Draft Status Review
[05:47:38] <=JeffH> slide 6 - Draft 03 Updates
[05:48:36] <=JeffH> slide 7 - discussion
[05:48:50] <=JeffH> slide 8 - Post 03
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Annabelle's Event
Simplification Proposal
[05:49:22] <=JeffH> slide 9 - Annabelle's Proposed SET
[05:49:56] <=JeffH> slide 10 - Proposal Justification
[05:50:29] <=JeffH> slide 11 - 03 Draft Reflects
Previous Consensus
[05:53:16] HAJIME WATANABE joins the room
[05:57:01] Satoru Kanno joins the room
[05:58:19] <=JeffH> now on slide 16 - Password Reset - Compare
[05:58:42] <=JeffH> slide 17 - Observations
[06:01:36] <=JeffH> slide 18 - Authors' Recommendation
[06:03:37] <=JeffH> justin richer at mic
[06:04:02] <=JeffH> tony nadalin at mic
[06:06:23] <=JeffH> justtin richer at mic
[06:06:36] <=JeffH> leif johansson at mic
[06:07:00] <=JeffH> anabell at mic
[06:08:21] <=JeffH> preso: Marius Scurtescu on set token delivery using http
[06:08:27] <=JeffH> slide 3
[06:08:35] <=JeffH> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-secevent-set-delivery/
[06:09:00] <=JeffH> slide 4 - Open Question: Delivery Method Optionality
[06:09:48] <=JeffH> slide 5 - Open Question: Delivery Method Attributes
[06:10:09] <=JeffH> tony n at mic
[06:10:59] <=JeffH> phil hunt at mic
[06:11:47] <=JeffH> anabel at mic
[06:12:47] <=JeffH> phil hunt back at mic
[06:14:16] <=JeffH> anabell at mic
[06:15:39] <=JeffH> slide 7 - Open Question: Delivery Method Attribs - Example
[06:16:04] <=JeffH> slide 8 - Open Question: HTTP Authorization Header
[06:16:55] <=JeffH> tony n at mic
[06:17:43] <=JeffH> slide 9 - q & a
[06:17:48] <=JeffH> phil hunt at mic
[06:18:05] <=JeffH> justin at mic
[06:20:28] <=JeffH> preso: Event Stream Management
API
Marius Scurtescu
[06:20:36] <=JeffH> slide 2 overview
[06:20:43] <=JeffH> slide 3 changes since ietf99
[06:21:07] <=JeffH> slide 4 - API: get stream config - Request
[06:21:23] <=JeffH> slide 5 -API: get stream config - Response
[06:21:36] <=JeffH> 6 - API: get stream config - Errors
[06:21:50] <=JeffH> 7 - API: update stream config - Request
[06:22:10] <=JeffH> 8 - API: get stream status
[06:22:22] <=JeffH> phil hunt at mic
[06:22:50] <=JeffH> 9 - API: add subject - Request
[06:23:25] <=JeffH> 10 - API: add subject - Errors
[06:23:52] Thomas Graf joins the room
[06:24:03] <=JeffH> dick  hardt asking question
[06:24:07] <=JeffH> justin at mic
[06:24:50] <=JeffH> phil at mic
[06:25:23] Thomas Graf leaves the room
[06:25:37] <=JeffH> 11 - API: remove subject - Request
[06:26:03] <=JeffH> 12 - API: verification event - SET
[06:26:35] <=JeffH> oops slide numbers off by 1
[06:26:44] <=JeffH> above are 12 & 13
[06:26:53] <=JeffH> oops maybe not
[06:27:19] <=JeffH> 13 - API: verification event - Trigger
[06:27:43] <=JeffH> 14 - Future Work: supported events
[06:28:06] <=JeffH> 15 - Future Work: supported events - Example
[06:28:32] <=JeffH> 16 - Future Work: subject definition framework
[06:28:50] <=JeffH> 17 - Open Question: get vs update
[06:29:24] <=JeffH> 18 - Open Question: Discovery Document
[06:29:30] <=JeffH> 19 - q & a
[06:30:44] <=JeffH> preso: Event Stream
Management
API:
RISC Profile
Annabelle
Backman
[06:30:56] <=JeffH> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-secevent-set-management-rest-eg/
[06:31:12] <=JeffH> 2 - Use Cases
[06:32:41] <=JeffH> 3 - Authorization
[06:33:19] <=JeffH> 4 - Subject Types
[06:33:39] <=JeffH> 5 - Subject Types: In SETs
[06:34:27] <=JeffH> (not slide 5 yet)
[06:34:38] <=JeffH> still on 4 subject types
[06:34:50] <=JeffH> now on slide 5
[06:36:11] <=JeffH> jumped to slide 11 Discovery
[06:36:20] <=JeffH> 12 - discovery cont'd
[06:36:50] <=JeffH> 13 - Subject Type-specific Discovery?
[06:37:45] <=JeffH> kathleen at mic
[06:37:59] <=JeffH> are you paying attention to privacy considerations?
[06:38:39] <=JeffH> RISC work:
http://openid.net/wg/risc
[06:39:12] <=JeffH> i.e. this preso is about examples of profiling the stuff that Marius was discussing in prior presos
[06:40:01] <=JeffH> kathleen: see HRPC draft that is in rfc editor's queue
[06:40:14] <=JeffH> thus identifiers tied to people are a big deal
[06:41:51] <=JeffH> justin richer at mic
[06:42:21] <=JeffH> berating Anabell for their design
[06:45:00] <=JeffH> anabell, dick, justin are apparently having a meta discussion wrt the data model
[06:45:05] <=JeffH> phil hunt at mic
[06:46:12] <=JeffH> dick at mic
[06:46:20] <=JeffH> phil
[06:47:45] <=JeffH> phil back at mic
[06:48:44] <=JeffH> preso: Control Plane Based on SCIM API - Phil Hunt
[06:48:54] <=JeffH> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-secevent-set-management-scim/
[06:49:10] <=JeffH> 2 - Why SCIM?
[06:49:26] <=JeffH> 3 - scim2 industry usage
[06:50:17] <=JeffH> 4 - Design Requirements
[06:50:24] <=JeffH> 5- design reqs
[06:50:49] <=JeffH> 6 - api basics
[06:52:23] <=JeffH> 7 - configuration discovery
[06:53:11] <=JeffH> 8 - error handling
[06:54:16] <=JeffH> 9 - Create Event Stream
[06:54:56] <=JeffH> 10 - Creation Response
[06:55:58] <=JeffH> 11 - GET Status/Config Request
[06:56:39] <=JeffH> 12 - Status/Config Request   w/fail
[06:56:59] <=JeffH> 13 - Updating Stream
[06:57:45] <=JeffH> 14 - subject management
[07:00:03] <=JeffH> 15 - Subjects As Resource (POST Variant)
[07:01:03] <=JeffH> 16 - Subjects As Resource Variant
[07:01:15] <=JeffH> not quite 16 yet
[07:01:45] <=JeffH> now 16
[07:02:09] Bjorn Hjelm joins the room
[07:02:31] <=JeffH> 17 - Stream Resource Variant
[07:03:07] <=JeffH> 18 - Is EMail Subject in Stream?
[07:03:36] <=JeffH> 19 - Is EMail Subject in Stream?  cont'd
[07:03:53] <=JeffH> 20 - Confirming OIDC Subject in
Stream
[07:05:05] <=JeffH> 21 - Adding Subject to Stream (EMail)
[07:05:34] <=JeffH> 22 - Adding Subject to Stream (OIDC)
[07:06:13] <=JeffH> 23 - Removing Subject from Stream (OIDC)
[07:06:37] <=JeffH> 24 - questions?
[07:06:45] <=JeffH> anabell at mic
[07:09:05] <=JeffH> ? at mic
[07:12:14] <=JeffH> anabell back at mic
[07:14:16] <=JeffH> dick hardt presenting — no link for these slides i can find
[07:14:22] <=JeffH> kathleen m. at mic
[07:19:04] <=JeffH> justin at mic
[07:21:21] <=JeffH> anabel at mic
[07:21:25] <=JeffH> tony n at mic
[07:22:04] <=JeffH> kathleen at mic
[07:25:40] <=JeffH> anabel at mic
[07:27:46] <=JeffH> phil at mic
[07:30:23] <=JeffH> [ jabber scribe is signing off… ]
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