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[15:27:08] <robsiemb> ok, looks like kurt is about to start
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[15:27:59] <Jeffrey Altman> is anyone listening to the audio?
[15:27:59] <robsiemb> agenda bashinbg
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[15:28:08] <robsiemb> into/scribe/agenda
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[15:28:12] <robsiemb> document status 5 min
[15:28:14] <robsiemb> sasl plain 10 min
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[15:28:16] <lisa> Hi all
[15:28:17] <robsiemb> 2222bis 20 min
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[15:28:22] <robsiemb> milestones 10 minutes
[15:28:25] <robsiemb> open mic (the rest)
[15:28:26] <Jeffrey Altman> welcome tom - yay!!!!!!
[15:28:34] * robsiemb has set the topic to: sasl working group - intro
[15:28:45] * robsiemb has set the topic to: sasl working group - doc status
[15:28:59] <robsiemb> 2222 bis - needs review, will discuss. May 05 considered firm
[15:29:29] <robsiemb> kurt: we posted new milestones last month
[15:29:52] <robsiemb> kurt: need to resolve the issuees this month, and finish review in april, publish in may
[15:30:05] <robsiemb> kurt: saslprep was published (rfc 4013)
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[15:30:18] <robsiemb> kurt: anon was announced to be sent
[15:30:31] <robsiemb> kurt: plain returned to WG, needs minor work
[15:30:42] <robsiemb> kurt: it needs to be made consistent with 2222bis
[15:30:49] <robsiemb> kurt: cram/digest are both in progress and require review
[15:30:54] <robsiemb> kurt: GSSAPI is expired, we need to rectify this
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[15:32:00] <robsiemb> kurt: problem with 1 sentence, and problems with how pseudocode is interpreted
[15:32:10] <robsiemb> (test)
[15:33:52] <robsiemb> kurt: idea was there is an abstraction "simple user names" that have several wire representations that are equivilent via SASLprep. We need to clarify this without mandating what is used inside the server.
[15:33:53] <robsiemb> kurt: Pseudocode was being viewed as perscriptive not descriptive
[15:33:54] <robsiemb> kurt: some clarifications on what portion of the implementation was responsible for what duties (e.g. mechanism doing identity derivation)
[15:34:05] <robsiemb> kurt: I have posted some proposed text to the list
[15:34:29] <robsiemb> kurt: then I will post a new revision to ensure that concerns are addressed
[15:35:14] * robsiemb has set the topic to: sasl working group - 2222bis
[15:35:26] <robsiemb> kurt: as at the last meeting, there are concerns over the identity concepts and terms used
[15:35:44] <robsiemb> kurt: are the interfaces between the specifications are clear (mechanism, base, application)
[15:38:08] <jhutz> any comments from jabber-land?
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[15:52:07] <jhutz> I wonder whether SASL actually meets ISMS's needs
[15:52:31] <leg> oh dear.
[15:52:44] <hartmans> Who wants to say no?
[15:52:44] <leg> this sounds complicated and unlikely to be simple.
[15:53:10] <jhutz> he wants to use SASL to protect a key exchange. That is analogous to what we're doing with GSSAPI in ssh.
[15:53:24] <jhutz> We had good reasons for doing that in SSH. I don't think that's the right answer here.
[15:55:01] <leg> nooooo
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[20:58:14] <Jeffrey Altman> hi
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