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[14:59:20] <hartmans> Looks like we don't have a jabber scribe.
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[15:00:37] <hartmans> ALexy is talking about base
[15:00:51] <hartmans> suggestion to clarify rekeying.
[15:00:56] <hartmans> response: give me text
[15:01:05] <hartmans> Nico Williams will give text.
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[15:02:23] <hartmans> we have insufficient review.. Chairs will not progress unless we believe there is adequate review
[15:02:54] <hartmans> On to digest-md5
[15:03:02] <hartmans> Not much work since last time
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[15:03:18] <hartmans> List of open issues at end of document. At last ietf asked people to comment on cbc mode attack fixes
[15:03:27] <hartmans> Sam replied; need to discuss with Sam offline
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[15:04:55] <hartmans> Discussion of realms an digest-md5; I don't completely follow.
[15:07:02] <leg> i didn't either.
[15:07:35] <hartmans> At least two more revisions of digest.
[15:07:38] <hartmans> next fall?
[15:08:31] <hartmans> kurt: Can we be in last call before end of year?
[15:08:49] <hartmans> alexey: I think we can.
[15:09:19] <hartmans> Wouldn't move faster with a co-editor
[15:09:31] <hartmans> kurt: Sounds like December for earliest for wg last call
[15:09:40] <hartmans> Definitely new draft by ietf; probably another one in december
[15:10:19] <hartmans> on to gssapi
[15:10:34] <hartmans> Discussion of non-null channel bindings on the list.
[15:10:43] <hartmans> jas - are you following? I have a question for you
[15:10:50] <jas> yup
[15:11:04] <hartmans> Multiple interoperable implementations exist; don't want to break interop
[15:11:36] <hartmans> jas - Why did you want channel bindings? Were you concerned about per-message tokens from one context bing used with other contexts
[15:11:39] <hartmans> Or something more?
[15:12:22] <jas> that was my initial worry, yes.
[15:12:47] <hartmans> nico: We might also want to address the rekeying issues.
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[15:14:17] <jas> hartmans: it is complicated because the authentication step itself uses per-message tokens.
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