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[05:09:08] resnick joins the room [05:09:11] ok [05:09:11] jhildebr@cisco.com is now known as hildjj [05:09:51] Jacky Yao (Health Yao) joins the room [05:14:51] Suz joins the room [05:19:01] action: unicode code points [05:19:20] not UTF-* [05:20:30] Thaler had the winning argument, which was that although UTF8 is the right thing on the wire most of the time, you'll want to compare with things that users entered, which will be in some platform-specific representation. [05:21:35] action: Pete to finish his review. Bad Pete. [05:21:36] bhoeneis joins the room [05:23:22] vincent-afnic joins the room [05:31:02] sean.s.shen joins the room [05:31:15] Marcos joins the room [05:31:51] sean.s.shen leaves the room [05:32:46] sean.s.shen joins the room [05:34:03] action: chairs to ping STORM working group about iscsi stringprep profile, and how much they care about case folding. [05:34:03] vincent-afnic leaves the room [05:46:17] action: more of use MUST read the unicode docs before Prague [05:47:41] similar situations have played out with respect to people doing things with ASN.1 without having read the standards [05:49:45] Ted says: This isn't like pandora's box. That box has hope at the bottom. [05:55:20] Thaler's 3 categories: [05:55:25] 1) byte-for-byte is ok [05:55:43] 2) not byte-for-byte, but we can agree [05:55:51] 3) can't agree on the rules [05:56:39] Thaler says: let's define a small number of boxes, and let downstream protocols decide which box is correct [05:57:18] also, in cat3, there are security issues [05:57:23] please substitute "code point for code point" for byte for byte [05:58:13] Ted: yes. 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[06:06:24] hta joins the room [06:06:29] perhaps we need a draft-thaler-buckets [06:07:01] draft-walrus-bukkits [06:07:26] tyly: lqtm [06:10:07] vincent-afnic joins the room [06:10:08] vincent-afnic leaves the room [06:11:50] vincent-afnic joins the room [06:11:50] vincent-afnic leaves the room [06:26:30] Alireza Saleh joins the room [06:33:17] Andrew Sullivan joins the room [06:35:53] <ɹəlɐɥʇ əʌɐp> tlyu: i like it [06:36:13] <ɹəlɐɥʇ əʌɐp> that gives me great ideas for pictures in a presentation, thanks [06:36:25] hildjj is now known as j⃝ [06:37:04] j⃝ is now known as hildjj [06:43:20] action: if we could all agree on "things that look like usernames" it would be good, so XMPP can align localpart with saslprep, etc. [06:45:00] other action for prob. statement: need to be able to sub-profile profiles so that you can build exception lists (I think that's what's entailed by what he just said) [06:45:59] Andrew Sullivan: yes; stringprep allows us to specify a set of codepoints that were disallowed, and we probably need to do that for other protocols, too. 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