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[07:04:26] Joe Hildebrand joins the room [07:04:31] lef joins the room [07:06:10] we can relay questions from the chat into the meeting room if needed [07:07:47] stpeter has set the subject to: précis wg :) | http://tools.ietf.org/wg/precis/ [07:07:48] dthaler joins the room [07:08:36] joseph.yee joins the room [07:08:39] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/precis-1.pdf [07:09:19] alexey.melnikov joins the room [07:10:42] doug.otis leaves the room [07:11:16] doug.otis joins the room [07:11:27] Jacky Yao (Health Yao) joins the room [07:14:23] Jim Galvin joins the room [07:16:47] Action: more work to define the complete list of stringprep profiles we need to work on. The next starting point is here: http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc3490.html [07:18:01] resnick: is this doc for us to throw away, or are we going to turn it into transition guidelines? [07:18:17] marc: we need another doc for transition guidelines [07:18:42] Barry Leiba leaves the room [07:18:43] Barry Leiba joins the room [07:19:53] david black: we need a doc for outsiders to describe the problem [07:21:05] johnK: don't be as worried about the 30+ refs. some of them are derogative refs. [07:21:13] marc: some of them are normative [07:21:20] Melinda joins the room [07:22:12] mtcarrasco joins the room [07:22:43] dthaler leaves the room [07:22:54] Barry Leiba leaves the room [07:23:00] johnK: keeping stringprep as rules to map unicode-to-unicode might not be compatible with the goals [07:23:24] Barry Leiba joins the room [07:23:32] Barry Leiba leaves the room [07:28:30] any actions out of all of that? [07:30:34] one action item seems to be finding people to help out with reviewing the RFCs listed at http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc3490.html [07:33:22] http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc3454.html [07:33:38] those are in fact the citations for stringprep [07:33:40] consensus of the room is that marc's problem statement draft should be a wg draft. [07:33:50] (according to the chair) [07:33:50] the previous list was for references to IDNA2003 [07:34:05] data-wise, there were folks humming for, and nobody against. [07:34:11] dthaler joins the room [07:34:30] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/precis-2.pdf [07:43:49] John's point at the mic -- need to look at "commonly mapped to nothing" with extreme care [07:45:30] John @ mic again -- you're going to need to look at NFC instead of NFKC for some identifiers [07:53:11] the customer isn't always right, in this case [08:01:06] mtcarrasco leaves the room [08:07:10] Andrew joins the room [08:11:31] Alexey as participant: SASL trace may have been a mistake. [08:17:04] gimgs0 joins the room [08:17:59] Action: if you're willing to even *mentor* a spec editor, please contact the chairs or the ADs. 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