[00:06:42] Juergen joins the room [00:06:42] Henk leaves the room [00:10:34] Henk joins the room [00:12:52] If the offset is reported, does the error (or certainty) also need to be reported? [00:14:02] What if the UTC is not well known... [00:15:07] OK.... fine detail. Thanks [00:36:03] Juergen leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [00:36:03] Juergen joins the room [00:42:20] Does this imply Emodel-like implementations for applications (other than VoIP, such as HTTP in this case)? [00:42:54] Or simply measures at two or more different layers that are compared (e.g. HTTP and IP)? [00:46:04] In the jargon of the market, this would suggest metrics for Quality of Application (QoA) - how well is the application working, and moreover distinguishing application performance due to application considerations from underlying network considerations? Is this the idea? [00:50:41] LOKI: Your question is on the screen, but there is still a line in front of the mike [00:50:56] Thanks Henk [00:54:46] Would work done in PMOL address, for example, categories of application? E.g. transaction-like (HTTP), data transfer -like (FTP).... etc.? [00:56:24] Each might be defined by their dependencies on lower layers, and by typical operation types, for example? [00:58:11] For example, HTTP is oriented around a page, use of multiple sessions/transactions, small transfers, TCP performance in early slow start, etc. [00:59:58] Is that the idea? [01:10:27] Commenting to Benoit - I would suggest that there are only 4 or 5 categories of application type - HTTP is from the category "transactional" [01:11:19] This would limit the scope of work [01:14:09] Juergen leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [01:14:09] Juergen joins the room [01:17:19] Juergen leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [01:17:19] Juergen joins the room [01:33:44] Juergen leaves the room [01:36:43] Henk leaves the room [01:37:38] Loki leaves the room [01:39:04] Thanks for playing! [01:39:08] acmacm leaves the room [01:40:36] Henk joins the room [01:40:54] Henk leaves the room