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[16:36:51] <mrex> I don't consider a procedure "efficient" if it involves network communication, let alone a full certificate download
[16:39:14] <mrex> the timestamp in signature itself is fairly useless, you'll need a timestamp from a time stamping authority
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[16:54:09] <richard.barnes> nobody scribing this session?
[16:54:32] <geoffbeier> no. audio is pretty good though: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf693.m3u
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[17:04:22] <mrex> same OID only makes sense for same semantics
[17:05:17] <mrex> otherwise its just superficial resemblance, and the software better not confuse them
[17:08:40] <mrex> so you're asking the snake-oil to identify itself. I see this unlikely to happen, in particular for the certs already issued ...
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[17:11:26] <mrex> so the responsible CAs could issue certs with special Quality-OIDs (Webtrust or other) in them instead!
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[17:16:21] <mrex> The whole CA stuff is about business model, NOT about security
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