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[12:53:25] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/session/paw
[12:53:39] <Lou Berger> please type @mic if you want me to relay a comment
[12:53:51] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-01-intro-02
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[12:53:58] <Suresh Krishnan> Thanks Lou
[12:54:56] <Lou Berger> Hi Suresh, np
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[13:04:52] <Éric Vyncke> It was Janos Parkas
[13:04:58] <Lou Berger> janos Farkas
[13:06:50] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-02-use-cases-02
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[13:17:41] <Ajeya Gupta> @mic
[13:18:44] <Diego Dujovne> to the mic: which low-layer wireless protocols would you use for mobile applications?
[13:18:53] <Ajeya Gupta> @Lou, I have some questions. I am an online observer. Is there a chance of transferring mic control to me?
[13:18:55] <Diego Dujovne> (thanks)
[13:19:32] <Suresh Krishnan> @Ajeya: no, you have to be in participant mode to use the mic
[13:19:37] <Lou Berger> on queue
[13:19:47] <Lou Berger> sorry in
[13:19:57] <Diego Dujovne> thanks Lou.
[13:20:43] <Lou Berger> type your bquestion here and ill read it
[13:20:57] <Lou Berger> @ajeya
[13:21:30] <Ajeya Gupta> to the mic: Are we looking to include vehicle ECU to ECU wireless communications? I am not talking about V2X/V2V type of communication. Rather, intra vehicle communication.
[13:23:03] <Hao Wang> redundant path is natural in wireless cases
[13:24:02] <Diego Dujovne> I can hear you ok.
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[13:25:43] <Éric Vyncke> Dave Black
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[13:26:31] <Éric Vyncke> Erik Nordmark
[13:26:33] <Suresh Krishnan> I am guessing Erik Nordmark
[13:26:40] <Lou Berger> yes
[13:28:03] <Suresh Krishnan> Alissa?
[13:28:08] <Lou Berger> Alissa <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-03-detnet-overview-00>
[13:28:10] <Lou Berger> yes
[13:28:36] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-03-detnet-overview-00
[13:29:11] <Éric Vyncke> Lou speaking, I am taking the jaber scribe role I guess ;-)
[13:29:22] <Suresh Krishnan> Thanks Éric
[13:30:06] <Éric Vyncke> and BTW, many AD physiclly in the room: Mirja, Deborah, Magnus and myself
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[13:39:27] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-04-ccamp-00
[13:39:44] <Lou Berger> back scribing
[13:42:22] <Lou Berger> Charlie perkins
[13:42:54] <Éric Vyncke> Lou
[13:43:57] <Lou Berger> Thanks
[13:44:15] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-05-6tisch-00
[13:47:45] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-06-80211-eht-00
[13:48:09] <Lou Berger> Ravi
[13:49:01] <Éric Vyncke> Ravi Ravindran
[13:49:07] <Lou Berger> Thank you!
[13:49:33] <audeoudh> I'll try to relay information between etherpad & jabber.
[13:49:38] <Mina Rady> mic: concerning spatial reuse of channels in the mesh, are you assuming a certain spatial organization of the mesh? (i.e. not just a radnomly distributed mesh)?
[13:49:53] <Lou Berger> in queue
[13:50:21] <Éric Vyncke> Carlos
[13:50:35] <Mina Rady> Thank you Lou
[13:51:21] <Éric Vyncke> This is becoming an EDU session about wireless... Interesting but 'wasting' BoF time
[13:51:25] <Éric Vyncke> ;-)
[13:51:47] <Lou Berger> remy liu
[13:52:09] <Éric Vyncke> It was Lou for Lou
[13:52:11] <Lou Berger> lou
[13:52:30] <Corinna Schmitt> Seems so. But I guess it was not stated clearly in the beginning that the planned and envisioned UC cover manifold communication standards
[13:52:58] <Corinna Schmitt> it really depends on the application fields which standard is used
[13:53:02] <Diego Dujovne> thanks lou. I was heading to that comment.
[13:53:13] <Lou Berger> great minds ;-)
[13:53:29] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-06-80211-eht-00
[13:53:36] <Diego Dujovne> it is not restricted for 6tisch, since 6tisch is not mobility and a couple of use cases are.
[13:54:00] <Suresh Krishnan> Swap order and move on
[13:54:32] <Éric Vyncke> Dave: click on the hand above the chat window
[13:54:37] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-07-5gurllc-00
[13:54:45] <Lou Berger> (skipping and coming back)
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[13:55:42] <Lou Berger> @dave I believe you'll be after this presentation
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[13:55:46] <Éric Vyncke> Good Dave, you are in the queue now :-)
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[14:05:48] <Éric Vyncke> Lou
[14:06:43] <Lou Berger> Lou: Thinks network coding masy be useful for a multihop detnet over RF
[14:06:47] <Éric Vyncke> Dave you are muted ?
[14:06:56] <Meetecho> He's having trouble with his mic apparently
[14:07:04] <Meetecho> I'm in contact with him privately
[14:07:38] <Lou Berger> : https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-06-80211-eht-00
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[14:07:48] <Lou Berger> <remote presenter>
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[14:08:07] <Lou Berger> @meetecho too loud in room...
[14:08:23] <Meetecho> Lou Berger: fixing that
[14:08:30] <Meetecho> Better now?
[14:08:36] <Lou Berger> yes
[14:08:45] <Lou Berger> thanks you!
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[14:11:08] <Lou Berger> my apologies - copied the wrong link, this is https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-08-ldacs-00
[14:15:23] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-06-80211-eht-00
[14:15:36] <Lou Berger> <for real this time>
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[14:23:58] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-09-802154-tsch-and-6tisch-tracks-00
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[14:29:29] <Meetecho> Is Xavi's volume too low in the room? We can increase that in case
[14:29:40] <Lou Berger> no is fine
[14:29:49] <Lou Berger> he needs a windscreen
[14:29:52] <Meetecho> (y)
[14:31:16] <Éric Vyncke> Lou again
[14:32:35] <Lou Berger> lou remains confused...
[14:33:30] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-10-paw-for-tsch-00
[14:38:47] <Lou Berger> Janos Farkas
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[14:40:54] <Mina Rady> mic: I am curious for your thoughts on the feasibility of such optimizations in a distributed (hop by hop ) manner
[14:41:05] <Mina Rady> oh, too late I suppose
[14:41:40] <audeoudh> @mina: Lou is in queue, for you I suppose.
[14:41:48] <Lou Berger> yes
[14:42:06] <Mina Rady> Thanks Lou
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[14:43:43] <Lou Berger> Mina sorry couldn't clearly articulate the question
[14:43:56] <Lou Berger> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/materials/slides-104-paw-11-pre-requirements-01
[14:44:10] <Mina Rady> It's OK, Thank you Lou!
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[14:46:27] <Diego Dujovne> Mina, about constructive interference on 802.15.4 you can find:
[14:46:29] <Diego Dujovne> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/8466562
[14:47:29] <Mina Rady> This is very useful, thank you very much Djego!
[14:47:41] <Lou Berger> +1
[14:52:17] <Lou Berger> out of time
[14:52:31] <Lou Berger> I need to drop off in ~90 sec
[14:54:24] <Lou Berger> sounds like roll+ccamp
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