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[08:02:44] <philip_matthews> Are the slides for other presentations uploaded somewhere?
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[08:10:15] <bert> JCA-MGT presentation by Dan
[08:10:36] bert has set the subject to: OPS-AREA Open meeting IETF72
[08:10:42] <philip_matthews> I only see slides for the JCA-MGT presentation by Dan. Are the other slides available somewhere?
[08:11:01] <bert> are all of you listentening to the audio?
[08:11:08] <philip_matthews> Yes
[08:13:15] <bert> JCA is followon to earlier NGN-MFG
[08:16:46] <bert> SB: does this JCA activity effect/affect any work ongoing in IETF
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[08:17:01] <bert> Dan: it is usefull that we follow what is happening
[08:17:18] <bert> to be aware what is going on in other orgs and to react if needed
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[08:18:25] <bert> So slides will be online in 5 minutes or so. I assume yoyu heard it on the audio
[08:18:41] <philip_matthews> yes. Thanks for asking the question.
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[08:22:46] <bert> Are you hearing Wes on the audio?
[08:22:50] <philip_matthews> yes
[08:22:59] <bert> SNMP over UDP vs TCP is the topic
[08:23:36] <DThaler> let us know when it's close to the end of this topic, theres several people in another meeting that want to come over there for the NAT-PT topic
[08:24:07] <bert> performance measerd in lossy networks
[08:24:22] <bert> earlier studdies in this space are old
[08:24:36] <bert> TCP performance has increased
[08:25:12] <bert> slide lists the reasons why lossy networks exist (as you hear on the audio)
[08:25:46] <bert> lossy rates vary from 0-40%
[08:26:07] <philip_matthews> Speaker is a bit too close to mic -- starting to get distortion
[08:26:59] <bert> someone here asked speaker to get closer, so we have audio better in the meeting itself
[08:27:43] <philip_matthews> He is better now.
[08:39:10] <bert> Dan cannot get slides on the network
[08:39:22] <bert> If you give me your email address I will mail it
[08:39:35] <philip_matthews> philip_matthews@magma.ca [mailto:philip_matthews@magma.ca]
[08:48:23] <bert> Wes slides should be in your inbox soon
[08:48:56] <philip_matthews> Just got them. Thanks. Are the slides for the upcoming presentations available?
[08:49:37] <bert> I am checking
[08:50:41] <DThaler> is the SNMP topic still going on?
[08:50:42] <bert> not clear yet where those slides are
[08:51:05] <philip_matthews> @DaveThaler: Yes
[08:51:21] <philip_matthews> But coming to an end
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[08:57:57] <bert> 2 more slidesets on its way
[08:58:44] <philip_matthews> Thanks.
[09:00:53] <philip_matthews> Just got the slides ...
[09:01:23] <bert> Post IPv4 completion by Alan Durand
[09:01:59] <bert> slide 3
[09:02:16] <philip_matthews> thanks for the slide numbers. It helps...
[09:02:35] <bert> I know it does
[09:02:59] <bert> I have followed a complete IETF meeting a few years back and experienced what it means if slides are not available
[09:03:55] <philip_matthews> This is my first one. I think everyone needs to try it once to really understand what local support is needed.
[09:05:51] <philip_matthews> What slide are we on?
[09:11:44] <bert> These do not have numbers.
[09:11:56] <bert> The totle is: all-new decies deployments
[09:12:25] <bert> now on: handling green-field devices
[09:15:19] <bert> now: Requirements and non-requirements
[09:17:02] <bert> slide: Impact of a CGN in the architecture
[09:17:45] <bert> more slides have been uploaded to https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/72/materials.html
[09:17:56] <bert> but still incomplete for OPSAREA
[09:18:36] <philip_matthews> Thanks.
[09:19:46] <bert> slide : moving away from port forwardingf g& UPnP
[09:26:40] <philip_matthews> Who is up next?
[09:27:08] <bert> Net is Ijitch
[09:27:25] <bert> NAT64 operational Considerations
[09:27:29] <philip_matthews> OK. I see his slides on the meeting materials page
[09:27:34] <bert> yep
[09:27:49] <bert> slide: NAT64 usefulness
[09:28:42] <bert> slide: nat64 prefix tests
[09:30:22] <bert> NAT64 presfix tests (2)
[09:31:03] <bert> slide: NAT64 prefix choices
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[09:32:12] <bert> slide: NAT64 placement
[09:32:33] <bert> Unworkable: 1,2,7
[09:33:10] <bert> special cases: 6 and 8
[09:34:17] <bert> In source ISP: 3,4,5
[09:34:35] <philip_matthews> Brief audio glitch ...
[09:34:46] <philip_matthews> It is back now
[09:35:37] <bert> DNS64 placement
[09:36:11] <bert> DNS64 in host (1)
[09:37:23] <bert> DNS64 in CPE (2)
[09:39:40] <bert> DNS64 in ISP (3,4,5)
[09:40:55] <bert> DNS64 ay other ISP or destionation (6,7,8
[09:41:21] <bert> conclusion
[09:43:07] <bert> one but last slide
[09:46:06] <bert> slide special cases (6,8)
[09:46:33] <bert> slide NAT64 placement 
[09:46:40] <bert> the figure with umbers
[09:47:55] <bert> Next is Xing Li: IVI operational Considerations and practice
[09:48:01] <bert> slide 3
[09:49:37] <bert> slide 4
[09:50:34] <bert> slide 5
[09:51:50] <bert> slide 6
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[09:52:55] <bert> slide 7
[09:53:30] <bert> slide 8
[09:54:30] <bert> slide 9
[09:55:21] <bert> slide 10
[09:56:19] <bert> slide 11
[09:56:30] <bert> slide 12
[09:57:01] <bert> slide 13
[09:57:46] <bert> slide 14
[09:58:17] <bert> slide 15
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[09:58:51] <bert> slide 16
[09:59:39] <bert> slide 17
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[10:00:36] <bert> slide 18
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[10:01:12] <bert> slide 19
[10:01:54] <bert> slide 20
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[10:02:49] <bert> slide 21
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[10:03:14] <bert> last 2 slides were not numbered though
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[10:03:19] <bert> slide 22
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[10:04:51] <bert> slide 23
[10:08:35] <bert> WG status reports
[10:10:41] <bert> BMDG  first
[10:10:43] <bert> Al morton
[10:12:31] <bert> ASL on PMOL WG
[10:12:37] <bert> s/ASL/Al/
[10:14:26] <bert> DIME
[10:14:43] <bert> by David
[10:14:50] <bert> Frasconi that is
[10:17:18] <bert> That was Bert Wijnen on Netconf
[10:17:24] <bert> now David Partain on NetMOD
[10:18:10] <bert> Juergen Quitteck
[10:18:13] <bert> IPFIX
[10:22:15] <bert> Scott Bradner on OPSAWG
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[10:25:02] <bert> end of session
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