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Monday, November 5, 2018< ^ >
Ludwig has set the subject to: OAUTH at IETF101 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/session/oauth
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[01:59:02] m&m has set the subject to: OAUTH at IETF103 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/session/oauth
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[02:00:22] <m&m> Hello all!  I'll be your Jabber relay today.  If you have questions, please preface them with "mic:"
[02:01:22] <Justin Richer> (Y)
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[02:05:16] <Aaron Parecki> mic: apologies for not submitting this sooner, but I have another one prepared for consideration: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-parecki-oauth-browser-based-apps-00
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[02:05:49] <Aaron Parecki> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-parecki-oauth-browser-based-apps/
[02:08:17] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Aaron and chairs should talk to meetecho about getting set up as a
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[02:08:35] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> (tomorrow, not today, if meetecho is listening)
[02:08:45] <Meetecho> We're only aware of Omer Levi Hevroni for today
[02:09:09] <Meetecho> If anything needs to happen tomorrow as well, please add the presenter info on our form
[02:09:12] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> Yeah, this is apparently a new thing as of just now, but maybe 1 day
of lead time is doable
[02:09:20] <Meetecho> http://ietf103.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Ask_Remote_Presentations_Support
[02:09:42] <m&m> "Please stand by"
[02:09:43] <Meetecho> If you add the speaker there we'll start sending mails
[02:10:19] <m&m> Brian Campbell - draft-ietf-oauth-token-binding (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-oauth-sessb-draft-ietf-oauth-token-binding-00)
[02:10:37] <Justin Richer> Hannes, Please fullscreen that for remote participants
[02:11:00] <Justin Richer> We need all the pixels we can get :)
[02:11:50] <Justin Richer> Thanks!
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[02:39:05] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> (not mic) I mean, TLS implementations ought to support EKM eventually
anyway; there are lots of good uses for it...
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[02:40:26] <Justin Richer> (not mic) Visual Basic support isn't the best indicator of adoption.....
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[02:50:14] <m&m> Tortsen Lodderstedt - draft-ietf-security-topis ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-oauth-sessb-draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-01 )
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[02:57:35] <m&m> Annabell at mic
[02:57:38] <Justin Richer> mic: I support this.
[02:58:06] <Justin Richer> To add: Torsten's point goes even further. You can set headers in JS now and a bunch of other things.
[02:58:35] <Justin Richer> :fire:
[02:58:40] <Justin Richer> this needs fire emojis
[02:58:43] <Aaron Parecki> mic: +1 the new draft which I can present tomorrow recommends dropping the implicit grant as well
[02:58:43] <m&m> John Bradley at mic
[02:58:54] <Justin Richer> 🔥
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[03:00:15] <Justin Richer> mic: I would say that we should also get rid of the OIDC hybrid response types in favor of JARM which we'll learn about shortly.
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[03:02:18] <Justin Richer> hummmmmm
[03:02:28] <Justin Richer> (in favor)
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[03:02:48] <Justin Richer> (y)
[03:03:32] <m&m> Torsten Lodderstadt - draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-oauth-sessb-draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-00 )
[03:08:50] <Justin Richer> mic: RFC7662 (introspection) requires RS authentication but is hand-wavy about it, this draft will need to be clear that encrypting results to a key fulfills that
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[03:15:29] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> (Annabelle with an 'e', I think)
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[03:15:48] <m&m> ta
[03:15:50] <Justin Richer> mic: (unless Torsten covers it), this is for back-channel, JARM is for front channel.
[03:17:00] <m&m> Brian at mic
[03:17:53] <m&m> Torsten Lodderstadt ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-oauth-sessb-openid-financial-api-jarm-wd-01 )
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[03:28:44] <Justin Richer> mic: I'm not against this work coming to the group, but I would like to generally ask us all: How much of SOAP are we going to re-invent before we admit that we're bastardizing HTTP in horrible ways?
[03:28:58] <Justin Richer> (apologies to M&M for any arrows flung to the messenger)
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[03:31:51] <Justin Richer> thank you matt, well handled :)
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[03:41:14] <m&m> Hannes Tschofenig ( https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-oauth-sessb-draft-ietf-oauth-pop-key-distribution-00 )
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