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[06:12:39] <spencer.shepler> good morning; just a little jabber test
[06:42:06] Chuck Lever joins the room
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[06:44:54] <Thomas Haynes> Ping
[06:44:58] <Chuck Lever> pong
[06:45:05] <spencer.shepler> good morning
[06:45:17] <Thomas Haynes> Chuck needs a picture
[06:45:41] <spencer.shepler> i like the light bulb
[06:46:56] <Chuck Lever> i have a picture on my system
[06:47:02] <spencer.shepler> nice
[06:47:12] <Chuck Lever> you guys have no picture
[06:47:37] <spencer.shepler> oh, well that is disappointing; the one I have set from this system is from like 4 years ago
[06:47:39] <spencer.shepler> very flattering
[06:48:02] <Chuck Lever> you should use the excellent picture i took of you at the NetApp bake-a-thon a couple of years ago  :-p
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[06:59:33] <Chuck Lever> spencer.shepler, can you hear us?
[06:59:45] <spencer.shepler> no, mmm...
[06:59:49] <spencer.shepler> unfortunate
[07:00:03] <spencer.shepler> where is that email address for ticketing
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[07:00:52] <Chuck Lever> starting
[07:01:00] <Chuck Lever> note well
[07:01:06] <spencer.shepler> wow, you are good
[07:01:11] <spencer.shepler> thanks
[07:01:22] <Chuck Lever> agenda bashing
[07:01:52] <Chuck Lever> matt's not here, leaving metadata striping to the end
[07:02:03] <spencer.shepler> sure
[07:02:33] <Chuck Lever> tom's slides
[07:03:23] <Chuck Lever> labeled NFS stuck waiting for Tom's time
[07:03:28] <spencer.shepler> yeah!!!  I can hear
[07:03:32] <Chuck Lever> ok
[07:03:44] <spencer.shepler> Tom's voice is wonderful
[07:03:54] <Chuck Lever> we're still on slide 2
[07:04:48] <Chuck Lever> slide 3
[07:05:04] <spencer.shepler> blunt; I like it
[07:05:31] <Chuck Lever> can you hear dave?
[07:06:44] <spencer.shepler> yes, audio seems to be going very well
[07:06:47] <spencer.shepler> thanks
[07:07:23] <spencer.shepler> document current practice; this is NFSv4.0
[07:08:02] <Chuck Lever> ah, matt's here
[07:08:11] <spencer.shepler> NFSv4.2
[07:08:16] <spencer.shepler> :-)
[07:08:24] <spencer.shepler> oh yeah, blocking fedfs
[07:08:51] <spencer.shepler> document current practice for i18n in NFSv4.0 ...
[07:08:53] <spencer.shepler> it is done
[07:09:54] <spencer.shepler> tom is correct and it should document current practice; NFSv4.1 is where to address the problems
[07:12:04] <spencer.shepler> please ask what has been implemented and why anything else needs to be documented...
[07:12:52] <spencer.shepler> ooh, moving on
[07:14:46] <spencer.shepler> rpcsec_gssv3 should be removed
[07:15:22] <spencer.shepler> update NFSv4.2 to remove the dependency
[07:16:56] <spencer.shepler> ah, where did Mike come from....
[07:17:00] <spencer.shepler> :-)
[07:19:25] <spencer.shepler> just the protocol definition is sufficient
[07:20:00] <spencer.shepler> thanks martin!!!
[07:20:06] <martin.stiemerling> you're welcome!
[07:20:20] <spencer.shepler> and good morning btw
[07:20:29] <martin.stiemerling> ah yes, good morning! :)
[07:20:58] <martin.stiemerling> though for you it is probably more good night, right?
[07:21:19] <Chuck Lever> slide 2
[07:21:55] <Chuck Lever> slide 3
[07:24:07] <spencer.shepler> thanks, chuck
[07:24:52] <Chuck Lever> slide 4 "Changes since previous draft"
[07:27:31] <Chuck Lever> slide "Data Server Types"
[07:28:22] <Chuck Lever> slide "State Model 1"
[07:31:49] <Chuck Lever> slide "State Model 2"
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[07:34:37] <Chuck Lever> slide "State Model 3"
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[07:35:58] <Chuck Lever> oops
[07:36:02] <Chuck Lever> slide "To Do"
[07:36:38] <Chuck Lever> slide "Future Work"
[07:41:27] <Chuck Lever> slide "Resources"
[07:42:47] <spencer.shepler> chuck sounds great
[07:49:36] <Martin Stiemerling> oh, chuck is up and nobody is telling the slide numbers
[07:49:40] <Martin Stiemerling> we're at slide no 6
[07:49:57] <spencer.shepler> not a problem; I can follow along well
[07:51:09] <Martin Stiemerling> ok
[07:51:14] <Martin Stiemerling> now slide 7
[07:54:48] <Martin Stiemerling> now lustre layout prso
[07:55:14] <spencer.shepler> go Sorin!
[07:55:42] <Chuck Lever> oo, slide numbers
[07:55:45] <Chuck Lever> slide 2
[07:56:11] <Chuck Lever> slide 3
[07:57:12] <Chuck Lever> slide 4
[07:57:22] <spencer.shepler> thanks again, chuck
[07:57:25] <Chuck Lever> two builds in
[07:57:39] <Chuck Lever> next build
[07:58:06] <Chuck Lever> next two builds
[07:58:52] <Chuck Lever> one more build
[08:01:24] <Chuck Lever> slide 5
[08:02:45] <Chuck Lever> slide 6
[08:03:11] <Chuck Lever> slide 7
[08:05:03] <Chuck Lever> slide 8
[08:06:01] <Chuck Lever> slide 9
[08:12:06] <Chuck Lever> slide 10
[08:13:25] <Chuck Lever> slide 11
[08:13:32] <Chuck Lever> build
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[08:14:31] <Chuck Lever> slide 12
[08:15:46] <Chuck Lever> slide 13
[08:16:01] <Chuck Lever> slide 15
[08:19:50] <Chuck Lever> Eshel, slide 2
[08:19:56] <spencer.shepler> mic is not on
[08:20:02] <spencer.shepler> yes
[08:21:26] <Chuck Lever> slide 3
[08:23:12] <Chuck Lever> slide 4
[08:24:24] <Chuck Lever> slide 5
[08:25:27] <Chuck Lever> slide 6
[08:28:33] <Chuck Lever> oops, slide 7
[08:35:48] <Chuck Lever> slide 8
[08:55:39] <Chuck Lever> slide "Overview"
[08:56:32] <Chuck Lever> slide "Why does NFSv4 have minor versioning?"
[08:58:00] <Chuck Lever> slide "Things you'd like to do with minor versioning"
[09:00:01] <Chuck Lever> slide "Analyizing the minor versioning paradigm"
[09:01:18] <Chuck Lever> slide "Some mistake/correction case studies"
[09:02:12] <Chuck Lever> slide "Migration case study"
[09:02:50] <Chuck Lever> slide "Migration case study (continued)"
[09:03:50] <Chuck Lever> slide "Internationalization case study"
[09:05:46] <Chuck Lever> slide "Delegation reclaim case study"
[09:06:50] <Chuck Lever> slide "Feature Batching"
[09:07:48] <Chuck Lever> slide "Feature Batching: What's it good for?"
[09:08:29] <Chuck Lever> slide "Feature Batching: Problems with unrelated features"
[09:09:56] <Chuck Lever> slide "Considering Paradigm Change"
[09:10:52] <Chuck Lever> Dave is holding the mic and gesturing with that hand
[09:12:50] <Chuck Lever> slide "War of the Metaphors, Final Chapter"
[09:14:40] <spencer.shepler> rough consensus and running code and the WG decides how it wants to move forward; if the WG wants implementation, it can decide to do that
[09:15:23] <spencer.shepler> the discussion certainly can be taken up on the WG alias
[09:16:25] <spencer.shepler> As I have pointed out on the WG alias, there is enough committed work at the moment that is not being done; this discussion would be more meaningful if there was greater energy with currently defined work
[09:16:29] <spencer.shepler> IMO
[09:17:46] <spencer.shepler> (thanks chuck)
[09:17:51] <Chuck Lever> sure
[09:18:51] <Chuck Lever> slide "Recap: changes from prior drafts"
[09:19:45] <Chuck Lever> slide "Inode Striping"
[09:20:12] <Chuck Lever> slide "Dentry striping"
[09:20:47] <Chuck Lever> slide "Simplify metadata layout slightly"
[09:21:31] <Chuck Lever> slide "Changes since 00"
[09:22:21] <Chuck Lever> slide "New items for discussion"
[09:23:19] <Chuck Lever> slide "Layout subtyping"
[09:23:33] <Chuck Lever> slide "Problems"
[09:24:18] <Chuck Lever> slide "Hypothetical"
[09:25:16] <Chuck Lever> slide "Device Lifecycle and LAYOUTRECALL"
[09:26:06] <Chuck Lever> slide "CB_DEVICEID_NOTIFY and dentry striping layouts"
[09:26:39] <Chuck Lever> slide "Progress on Implementation"
[09:26:52] <Chuck Lever> slide "Current draft"
[09:27:33] <Chuck Lever> suggestion: ask Martin for comments before we go?
[09:27:34] <spencer.shepler> thanks again for the help in keeping up, chuck
[09:27:49] <Chuck Lever> still awake?
[09:27:52] <Chuck Lever> ;-)
[09:28:01] <spencer.shepler> oh yeah...
[09:28:56] <spencer.shepler> good suggestion about errata; will pull that together...
[09:29:33] <spencer.shepler> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5661&rec_status=15&presentation=table
[09:29:37] <Thomas Haynes> Bye
[09:29:41] <spencer.shepler> have fun in berlin
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