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[16:13:28] no [16:13:33] spencer's working on it [16:13:40] thanks [16:16:33] getting something, but it's very quiet [16:17:01] yes, hearing it now. But if they fix it, it will probably puncture my eardrums. [16:18:39] I apparently appear as "Backup Account" because I'm using a loaner machine. This is Dan Ellard @ BBN Technologies :-) [16:19:16] you show up as ellard on my screen [16:19:27] good; thanx [16:22:17] semery joins the room [16:22:33] Beware, James is about to yell... [16:24:06] someone is obviously a lot closer to the mic than James [16:24:27] there is a tech in the room working on the issue [16:24:37] it's really loud now :-) [16:24:44] It worked. I think my eardrums met in the center of my head. [16:25:00] hello everyone [16:27:15] audio working? [16:27:18] yes [16:27:32] ok, no [16:27:39] Yes, when people use the mic. Whoever is speaking now is v. faint. [16:27:54] what ellard said [16:28:09] That would be David Quigley [16:28:22] ok now [16:29:37] I am working on uploading hte presentations to the agenda page [16:29:39] they are coming... [16:31:43] okay, quigley's presentation should be there [16:35:14] audio better? [16:35:20] yes [16:35:27] most excellent [16:39:13] questions online? [16:39:51] questioners not using mic? [16:40:45] mmm, they are using a mic; maybe not a mic that is working [16:43:10] testing mic; here anything from David? [16:43:28] whoever just said 'is this better?" worked [16:43:34] okay [16:43:37] yes [16:43:39] is this one working? yes [16:43:49] yes [16:43:53] but it makes everyone sound like BP [16:44:03] that is very interesting [16:47:39] btw: the presentations are showing up at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/77/materials.html [16:47:44] in the nfsv4 section [16:54:36] all presentations are uploaded [16:54:49] thanks [16:57:21] ellard leaves the room [16:58:40] moved to sorin's last slide [16:58:47] sorry, second to last [17:00:54] question by dave noveck: are the tings in the presentation recommended or mandatory? [17:01:35] question from david black: need to review and check for toleration of new error code (that may be mandatory) [17:02:42] q: how much of this will be visible to the application [17:03:18] david black: biggest gain will be that there is an attempt to log info [17:03:40] "q" == Rod Van Meter, Keio U. [17:03:51] :-) [17:03:57] :-) [17:06:34] if presenters jump around, it would be good to hear slide numbers instead of "next slide" [17:06:43] ack [17:14:34] on slide titled "policy-based management" [17:16:54] did i miss what "SLO" means? [17:18:06] I was just about to ask that... [17:18:37] service level objective (?) [17:20:08] spencer.shepler leaves the room [17:21:04] rdv@jabber.postel.org leaves the room [17:27:47] spencer.shepler joins the room [17:29:19] on slide "in a perfect world" [17:30:04] slide 10 [17:31:23] trondmy leaves the room [17:35:08] questions.... [17:35:21] next up is the rfc3530bis presentation [17:36:14] noveck: does this need any changes to the nfsv4 protocol [17:36:37] andy: no, attempting to use existing mechanisms [17:36:40] trondmy joins the room [17:37:45] tom haynes is up next [17:41:15] lipkey/spkm3 is dead to nfsv4 :-) [17:42:11] >:-) [17:47:04] sparse files presentation [17:49:57] would a server capabilities flag be needed as well? [17:50:42] marc says no [17:51:08] that's exactly why i asked [17:51:16] what if the local file system doesn't support this [17:52:30] did you hear eisler's answer? [17:52:39] yes... but what if the server CPU is slow? [17:52:45] seems like a scalability issue [17:53:01] not a big deal [17:53:28] thanks [17:56:04] why doesn't setattr(new size) work? [17:56:29] That can't punch a hole. It can only create holes at the end of the file [17:56:48] OK; was talking about pre-allocation only [18:01:22] could you combine hole_punch with space_reservation? [18:01:30] ie use a single op for both? [18:02:21] dave noveck is next [18:06:16] resnick joins the room [18:06:31] resnick leaves the room [18:13:44] semery leaves the room: Disconnected [18:19:36] questions for noveck? 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