[15:52:49] brian.bnsmith joins the room [15:53:03] hardaker joins the room [15:56:07] bertwijnen@jabber.psg.com joins the room [15:56:26] dlpartain joins the room [15:56:41] good morning. I will be jabber scribe and I can relay questions if there are any [15:59:49] agenda and meeting materails are at: The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) allows revocation information to be conveyed as part of the SignedData, EnvelopedData, AuthenticatedData, and AuthEnvelopedData content types. The preferred format for revocation information is the Certificate Revocation List (CRL), but an extension mechanism supports other revocation information choices. This document defines two additional revocation information formats for Online Certificate Status Protocol (OCSP) responses and Server-Based Certificate Validation Protocol (SCVP). [15:59:56] dlpartain has set the subject to: NETMOD Meeting, IETF77, March 23, 2010 09:00 - 11:30 [16:00:03] sorry, retry [16:00:11] http://tools.ietf.org/wg/netmod/agenda?item=agenda77.html [16:00:14] that is better [16:00:16] thanks [16:01:08] audio is on: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf775.m3u [16:01:58] Mark Ellison joins the room [16:02:21] DavidAlanReid joins the room [16:02:32] no audio yet? [16:03:22] is the audio ok now? [16:04:14] Lada Lhotka joins the room [16:04:23] sorry...not even white noise...is anyone else remote? [16:04:46] we're trying to get it fixed [16:05:00] mbj joins the room [16:05:46] we have not started, we're doing admin stuff like getting note takers [16:05:57] I'm not getting any audio either [16:06:09] ray_atarashi joins the room [16:06:14] tetsuya.innami joins the room [16:06:54] Juergen Schoenwaelder joins the room [16:07:37] as soon as the audio comes up, can the repote participants let us know [16:07:43] we're working on it [16:08:00] we're going to start now . AGenda slides [16:08:09] first link on web page [16:08:16] Dpartain talking [16:08:26] may be a short meeting or it may be very long [16:09:40] DP is explaining the sequence fo docs we will go through [16:10:28] WG status slide [16:10:35] 2 dosc in ietf LC [16:10:43] yang base plus datatypes [16:10:51] very little comment sofar [16:11:19] DP expects more noise when IESG gets the documents [16:11:31] authors/editor be prepareed to quickly respond to any issues [16:11:42] Dan Romascanu (DR) [16:11:53] IETF LC ends between april 10-15 [16:12:25] I now get some very very light audio [16:12:27] if lvl of comments stays low, then DR encourages to respin docs if necessary and DR will try to get them on apr 22bd telechat (at least try to) [16:12:54] Only comment sofar: why are we doing XML again [16:13:03] and we expect some security comments [16:13:16] DP 2 docs have completed WG LC [16:13:25] Architecture and Usage document [16:13:32] will both soon complte WGLC [16:13:35] getting feedback and whitenoise now...very Pink Floyd...we have an app for that? [16:14:07] YANG DSDL is also in WGLC (3 weeks, because high learning curve, and because it is ietf week) [16:14:16] one mic is up, but not near speaker [16:14:46] can you hear now? [16:14:48] Atarashi Yoshifumi joins the room [16:15:15] slightly better.. [16:15:33] did you hear David or Phil or both? [16:15:34] ican you follow it And did you hear DP or Phil? [16:15:53] I heard DP speaking now. [16:16:04] very faint [16:16:13] Mehmet joins the room [16:16:16] he has mic nearly in his mouth [16:16:33] I think a different mic is on [16:16:55] it is understandable right now - so I am fine [16:16:58] DR asked PASS area for review [16:17:00] DR is closer to the mic [16:17:04] we tried all 3 mics we have [16:18:05] there seems to be a general jabber failure, this is the only group workig that I can see [16:18:07] Fhil: can we go back to early supporters of DSDL mapping to review? [16:18:26] well ours works, I cannot work on other jabber rooms [16:18:50] next slides [16:18:54] just wondering if anybody else is seeing this, or a problem here, thanks Brina [16:18:56] ANy topics to add to agenda? [16:19:10] We see you comments Biran [16:19:39] DP: up till now no comments on types [16:19:55] Ken Watson (KW) wonders why there was not a percentage type [16:20:05] Juergen? [16:20:21] audio technician is coming in [16:20:30] I do not recall that this was requested. Nor am I sure it really would be needed. [16:21:36] there is an example in the main doc [16:21:45] KW thinks there should be a type [16:21:47] WOW sound! [16:21:56] Phil: or 2 types maybe [16:22:02] audio is great now - blowing away my ears for a moment ;-) [16:22:27] can you also hear Partain ow? [16:22:37] yes - sounds good [16:22:51] Abierman considers doc closed, so would rather not add more types at this point in time [16:23:32] YES [16:23:52] juergen do you mean you need it? [16:24:39] Martin speaks to YANG status slides [16:24:51] summary of changes since 08 [16:25:29] I am typing far less now, now that audio works [16:25:42] dlpartain leaves the room [16:26:22] tetsuya.innami leaves the room [16:26:51] dlpartain joins the room [16:29:14] tetsuya.innami joins the room [16:33:02] opinions from remote participants [16:33:52] yang 1.0 is done, but this is an issue to consider for yang 2.0 / netconf 2.0 [16:34:49] Andy presents USAGE document [16:35:08] slide : changes from 2 to 3 [16:36:27] Do we want to remove the figure 1? [16:38:16] slide: mlist comments [16:42:09] slide: mlist comments (2) [16:44:30] ray_atarashi leaves the room [16:45:02] We are not talking about RFCs, we are talking about rules for making IDs work better. This is not needed. [16:47:52] tetsuya.innami leaves the room [16:48:00] ray_atarashi joins the room [16:48:51] slide: summary [16:50:42] Phil on architecture document [16:50:59] slide: Comments and Feedback [16:51:14] slide: WG goals [16:51:28] Slide: second attempt [16:51:51] slie: changes from 3 to 4 [16:52:18] slide: new draft: ... [16:52:20] kurilo joins the room [16:52:43] slide: question remains [16:54:19] email posting from phil is now on screen [17:04:10] Lada presents YANG to DSDL [17:04:10] jdc sez hej [17:04:17] hey [17:04:31] slide: main changes from 4 to 5 [17:05:15] you want me to relay that jdc sez hej at an appropriate point in time? [17:05:32] is jdc following the discussion too? [17:05:47] yes, but don't break in anything substantive [17:05:53] ack [17:06:02] hej = hello in swedish if i remember correctly [17:06:17] could be used in Dutch (dialect) too [17:06:28] learn something new every day [17:06:33] following only tangentially [17:06:39] have to go to a meeting soon [17:07:05] slide: status of draft [17:08:36] slide: remaining issues [17:08:42] dlpartain leaves the room [17:10:43] slide: In an RPC [17:12:00] slide 6: implementation status [17:12:00] dlpartain joins the room [17:19:07] slide 7 [17:19:19] future work byeond current charter [17:21:51] dromasca joins the room [17:22:41] thanks [17:23:19] now Bernd on: Complex Types and Typed Instance Identifiers as YANG Extension [17:23:27] slide 1 [17:23:31] title [17:24:28] slide 2: complex Types [17:26:06] Lada Lhotka leaves the room [17:26:10] Lada Lhotka joins the room [17:26:23] slide 3: 1:1 mapping to other languages [17:27:47] slide 4: New since ietf76 [17:29:06] slide 5: Improvements for v02 [17:30:22] slide 6: Demo [17:31:15] demo now on screen [17:31:53] example will be made available after meeting [17:32:10] it is a slightly modified version of the draft (page 14) [17:32:11] Ronald van der Pol joins the room [17:33:34] slide 7: Further STeps [17:33:44] oops still on slide 6 [17:33:51] now slide 7 [17:40:21] any comments/questions from the remote participants regarding this work's future? [17:54:06] any hands from remote participants? 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