[00:51:21] David Reid joins the room [00:51:46] David Reid leaves the room [08:49:35] aman joins the room [10:08:18] dlpartain joins the room [10:10:55] dlpartain has set the subject to: IETF75 NETMOD Session 1, July 27 1300 - 1500 [10:30:07] dlpartain leaves the room [10:37:26] dlpartain joins the room [10:37:35] dlpartain leaves the room [10:54:10] David Reid joins the room [10:59:23] mbj joins the room [11:00:29] Brent Chapman joins the room [11:05:26] Roland Hedberg joins the room [11:05:28] Juergen Schoenwaelder joins the room [11:05:33] Bert Wijnen joins the room [11:05:51] Linus Nordberg joins the room [11:06:02] balazs.lengyel joins the room [11:07:00] Bert Wijnen leaves the room [11:07:09] andy joins the room [11:10:37] weshardaker joins the room [11:11:15] Bert Wijnen joins the room [11:15:35] andy are you listening in ? [11:15:38] yes I am [11:15:56] audio is working [11:16:01] thanks [11:16:24] ietfdbh joins the room [11:18:20] so Andy it seems date will be added (as I guess you heard) [11:19:00] If you don't have date, people will adopt a convention of using date-and-time with time of 0:00:00 or something, and there will a chance for confusion multiple conventions. [11:19:42] Bent, are you remote? [11:19:43] want to make sure same units clause is used consistently [11:21:53] could put suggested units name in usage draft; that would be good enough [11:24:18] not clear how these SMI types are used in NETCONF; that [11:24:22] s what I meant [11:25:36] the YANG object identifier is an XPath expression [11:26:43] dromasca joins the room [11:28:59] leave it out I guess -- don't care [11:29:21] Atarashi Yoshifumi joins the room [11:30:55] I do not remember making this request; YANG canonical format -- agent MUST send UTC only [11:32:39] david joins the room [11:32:42] Mark Ellison joins the room [11:32:55] david leaves the room [11:33:56] slide 8 [11:34:44] back to slide 7 [11:35:25] ray joins the room [11:37:03] slide 8 [11:37:38] SMIv2 has this; is it needed in YANG too? [11:37:41] andy, want to add explanation? [11:38:49] do we need any time intervals or just absolute time in NETCONF? [11:39:07] I just emailed that very question to the mailing list. [11:40:27] this is no way to express a duration. that's the problem. [11:41:37] this is "just absolute time" ? [11:42:03] david.kessens@jabber.org joins the room [11:42:26] washam.fan joins the room [11:45:56] slide 9 [11:47:31] david.kessens@jabber.org leaves the room [11:49:39] david.kessens@jabber.org joins the room [11:53:30] slide 3 [11:56:05] no it is not. see my help-mode example [11:56:25] is that answer to phil? [11:56:36] the selected choice can itself consist of a leaf and another choice [11:57:37] mean selected case [11:59:23] slide 4 [12:00:11] washam.fan leaves the room [12:02:35] washam.fan joins the room [12:02:53] haa joins the room [12:03:29] haa leaves the room [12:04:22] do not make XPath parsers treat expressions in groupings differently [12:06:07] is it OK to map local-prefix:/X in a grouping to the node X, even though the namespace will change later [12:09:19] this rule makes off-the-shelf XPath parsing impossible, right? the parser needs to allow prefixes outside a grouping, but not allow it inside a grouping [12:11:04] leafref path is not XPath [12:13:51] I agree with Juergen. This is just a constant expression, no reason to add CLRs to XPath [12:16:44] kurilo joins the room [12:17:18] there are lots of ways to produce garbage XPath; do not understand proposal [12:19:53] XPath does not treat this as an error. It is just a YANG warning, not an error. [12:24:10] no -- missing xmlns for a prefix is an error in XPath [12:26:50] it is a compile time error because the XPath expression would be invalid [12:36:08] ersue joins the room [12:40:55] what about something like 'when NOT_YET;' a placeholder is OK in a when-expression, but not a must-expression [12:42:02] yes -- valid YANG [12:49:36] ietfdbh leaves the room [12:57:03] Roland Hedberg leaves the room [12:57:15] ersue leaves the room [12:57:31] Private to Andy: Please check your email. I sent you the netconf slides. [12:57:44] balazs.lengyel leaves the room [12:57:48] washam.fan leaves the room [12:57:49] Linus Nordberg leaves the room [12:57:53] Atarashi Yoshifumi leaves the room [12:57:55] david.kessens@jabber.org leaves the room [12:57:56] balazs.lengyel joins the room [12:58:01] kurilo leaves the room [12:58:29] David Reid leaves the room [12:58:39] weshardaker leaves the room: Disconnected. [12:59:25] balazs.lengyel leaves the room [13:00:17] Brent Chapman leaves the room [13:00:17] Bert Wijnen leaves the room [13:00:19] mbj leaves the room [13:03:07] aman leaves the room [13:08:28] andy leaves the room: Logged out [13:09:29] Juergen Schoenwaelder leaves the room: Disconnected [13:11:39] dromasca leaves the room [13:13:48] Mark Ellison leaves the room [13:18:20] ray leaves the room [13:18:32] lhotka joins the room [13:19:19] lhotka leaves the room [13:19:41] Brent Chapman joins the room [13:27:23] Juergen Schoenwaelder joins the room [13:28:18] ietfdbh joins the room [13:31:11] ietfdbh leaves the room [14:09:22] Brent Chapman leaves the room [14:24:21] Brent Chapman joins the room [14:25:55] Brent Chapman leaves the room [14:55:51] Juergen Schoenwaelder leaves the room