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[00:41:48] Will Ivancic leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [00:41:48] Will Ivancic joins the room [00:41:52] hideki joins the room [00:42:11] lhotka joins the room [00:43:50] jishac joins the room [00:45:41] washam.fan joins the room [00:46:14] Now Have Working group documents for all deliverables [00:47:38] bert joins the room [00:48:07] Phil Shafer to discuss Architectue Document [00:48:19] ietfdbh joins the room [00:48:48] sound quality OK for the remote participants? [00:49:19] yes,but is the ppt available online? [00:49:32] I'll check. [00:49:39] One minute [00:49:48] Phil does not have a slide up [00:50:22] no powerpoints online for this document. [00:52:00] spturner leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [00:52:00] spturner joins the room [00:53:33] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/74/materials.html [00:54:18] Atarashi Yoshifumi joins the room [00:57:46] Common Yand Data Types slides are now to be discussed. [00:58:20] Most have read document [00:59:04] dromasca joins the room [00:59:16] About 30 people in room. [01:01:02] Should we have a canonical form for XPath? [01:01:26] Recommendation is No Canonical form [01:02:53] mikemlb joins the room [01:05:59] Should XPath be called XPath1-0 or XPath1.0 or XPath1 to accommodate definitions of other future XPath versions? [01:09:12] ehalep joins the room [01:10:17] ehalep leaves the room [01:10:41] ehalep joins the room [01:10:47] ehalep leaves the room [01:10:49] general jabber info - 15 active Jabber logins currently [01:26:23] spturner leaves the room [01:28:03] Room concensus is XPath1.0 - will take to the list [01:28:22] Now discussion ipv6 address pattern [01:29:54] Should the working group support all IPv6 address writing styles or can we go ahead with just the canonical IPv6 address format? [01:32:45] Question, one canonical form or multiple forms? Any input from Jabber community? [01:32:52] I am fine with begin consistent - allowing the same formats for prefixes we allow for ip addresses. [01:33:28] multiple forms - support what the ipv6 rfc supports. I think it makes it easier for programmers to implement [01:34:37] Room concensus is for flexibility. [01:35:36] DNS and URI discussions [01:35:51] DNS awaiting expert input [01:36:15] URI probably needs expert input also. [01:37:37] The question is whether the regular expression in Appendix B of RFC 3986 can be used or not. [01:40:48] Discussing IEEE port list [01:44:33] The textual convention is in the Q-BRIDGE-MIB (RFC something) but the TC uses a binary string (each bit representing a port). [01:45:29] balengyel joins the room [01:47:43] Phil's questions are all easy to answer if we follow the Q-BRIDGE-MIB. But the fact that nobody proposed a concrete typedef is a sign for me that this type and the vlan types should be deferred. [01:49:33] Dan, you are wrong. You can configure trunk ports and vlan membership via objects using the PortList TCs. [01:50:07] i am nxt in line at mic [01:52:05] Should we continue to work on this data type? [01:52:18] defer [01:52:26] Concensus is to defer [01:52:42] Discussion on Vlan types [01:52:52] Should we defer Vlan types [01:53:01] Concensus is to defer [01:55:51] Suggestion of port number 0 (zero) [01:56:02] Note that the value zero is not a valid port number. A union type might be used in situations where the value zero is meaningful. [01:56:20] This is a quote from the description of port-number. [01:57:15] Now on YANG Open Issues [02:00:55] Proposal is to remove the restriction that all XML elements are encoded in the same order as specified in the YANG model. This maps nicely to RelaxNG [02:01:17] XML elements can be encoded in any order. [02:04:06] in my experience most XML servers do not care about order of elements. Why should NetMod be more restrictive? [02:05:26] Concensus is no enforced order. [02:05:52] Discussion Float vs decimal [02:06:55] Proposal is to replace to float types with a (fixed point) decimal64 type. [02:08:11] Discussion on canonical form types - see slide 5 (I believe) [02:09:10] Question #1 floats or decimal64? [02:13:24] Concensus is to use decimal64 [02:13:43] Next question is 3.0 vs no trailing zeros [02:13:49] first alternative here [02:15:36] Concensus is first alternative - use + sing, no leading or trailing zeros, except that there must be one digit on both sides of the decimal point: "3.0" "0.4668" [02:16:03] use plus (+) sign [02:25:31] Any comments before open mic [02:25:55] Open Mic for 10 minutes or less. [02:26:06] ietfdbh leaves the room [02:26:10] Anything from Jabber? [02:26:50] mark.ellison leaves the room [02:26:53] mikemlb leaves the room [02:26:57] Closed for today. Pick up on Wednesday. [02:27:14] Juergen Schoenwaelder leaves the room [02:27:23] Juergen, I hope I represented you well. Good night. 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