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[00:38:53] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> audio is fine
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[00:39:08] <mark.ellison> audio is good...+1
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[00:41:03] <Will Ivancic> Juergen can you hear the audio?
[00:41:10] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Audio is almost perfect.
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[00:46:14] <Will Ivancic> Now Have Working group documents for all deliverables
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[00:48:07] <Will Ivancic> Phil Shafer to discuss Architectue Document
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[00:48:48] <bert> sound quality OK for the remote participants?
[00:49:19] <washam.fan> yes,but is the ppt available online?
[00:49:32] <Will Ivancic> I'll check.
[00:49:39] <Will Ivancic> One minute
[00:49:48] <bert> Phil does not have a slide up
[00:50:22] <Will Ivancic> no powerpoints online for this document.
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[00:53:33] <spturner> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/74/materials.html
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[00:57:46] <Will Ivancic> Common Yand Data Types slides are now to be discussed.
[00:58:20] <Will Ivancic> Most have read document
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[01:01:02] <Will Ivancic> Should we have a canonical form for XPath?
[01:01:26] <Will Ivancic> Recommendation is No Canonical form
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[01:05:59] <Will Ivancic> Should XPath be called XPath1-0 or XPath1.0 or XPath1 to accommodate definitions of other future XPath versions?
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[01:10:49] <Will Ivancic> general jabber info - 15 active Jabber logins currently
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[01:28:03] <Will Ivancic> Room concensus is XPath1.0 - will take to the list
[01:28:22] <Will Ivancic> Now discussion ipv6 address pattern
[01:29:54] <Will Ivancic> Should the working group support all IPv6 address writing styles or can we go ahead with just the canonical IPv6 address format?
[01:32:45] <Will Ivancic> Question, one canonical form or multiple forms?  Any input from Jabber community?
[01:32:52] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> I am fine with begin consistent - allowing the same formats for prefixes we allow for ip addresses.
[01:33:28] <mark.ellison> multiple forms - support what the ipv6 rfc supports.  I think it makes it easier for programmers to implement
[01:34:37] <Will Ivancic> Room concensus is for flexibility.
[01:35:36] <Will Ivancic> DNS and URI discussions
[01:35:51] <Will Ivancic> DNS awaiting expert input
[01:36:15] <Will Ivancic> URI probably needs expert input also.
[01:37:37] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> The question is whether the regular expression in Appendix B of RFC 3986 can be used or not.
[01:40:48] <Will Ivancic> Discussing IEEE port list
[01:44:33] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> The textual convention is in the Q-BRIDGE-MIB (RFC something) but the TC uses a binary string (each bit representing a port).
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[01:47:43] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Phil's questions are all easy to answer if we follow the Q-BRIDGE-MIB. But the fact that nobody proposed a concrete typedef is a sign for me that this type and the vlan types should be deferred.
[01:49:33] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> Dan, you are wrong. You can configure trunk ports and vlan membership via objects using the PortList TCs.
[01:50:07] <Will Ivancic> i am nxt in line at mic
[01:52:05] <Will Ivancic> Should we continue to work on this data type?
[01:52:18] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> defer
[01:52:26] <Will Ivancic> Concensus is to defer
[01:52:42] <Will Ivancic> Discussion on Vlan types
[01:52:52] <Will Ivancic> Should we defer Vlan types
[01:53:01] <Will Ivancic> Concensus is to defer
[01:55:51] <Will Ivancic> Suggestion of port number 0 (zero)
[01:56:02] <Juergen Schoenwaelder>        Note that the value zero is not a valid port number. A union
       type might be used in situations where the value zero is
       meaningful.
[01:56:20] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> This is a quote from the description of port-number.
[01:57:15] <Will Ivancic> Now on YANG Open Issues
[02:00:55] <Will Ivancic> Proposal is to remove the restriction that all XML elements are encoded in the same order as specified in the YANG model.  This maps nicely to RelaxNG
[02:01:17] <Will Ivancic> XML elements can be encoded in any order.
[02:04:06] <mark.ellison> in my experience most XML servers do not care about order of elements.  Why should NetMod be more restrictive?
[02:05:26] <Will Ivancic> Concensus is no enforced order.
[02:05:52] <Will Ivancic> Discussion Float vs decimal
[02:06:55] <Will Ivancic> Proposal is to replace to float types with a (fixed point) decimal64 type.
[02:08:11] <Will Ivancic> Discussion on canonical form types - see slide 5 (I believe)
[02:09:10] <Will Ivancic> Question #1 floats or decimal64?
[02:13:24] <Will Ivancic> Concensus is to use decimal64
[02:13:43] <Will Ivancic> Next question is 3.0 vs no trailing zeros
[02:13:49] <Juergen Schoenwaelder> first alternative here
[02:15:36] <Will Ivancic> Concensus is first alternative  - use + sing, no leading or trailing zeros, except that there must be one digit on both sides of the decimal point: "3.0" "0.4668"
[02:16:03] <Will Ivancic> use plus (+) sign
[02:25:31] <Will Ivancic> Any comments before open mic
[02:25:55] <Will Ivancic> Open Mic for 10 minutes or less.
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[02:26:57] <Will Ivancic> Closed for today.  Pick up on Wednesday.
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[02:27:23] <Will Ivancic> Juergen, I hope I represented you well.  Good night.
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