[15:50:16] Washam Fan joins the room [17:33:35] fenghongyan2009 joins the room [17:34:06] fenghongyan2009 leaves the room [17:37:42] fenghongyan2009 joins the room [17:38:32] fenghongyan2009 leaves the room [18:19:43] Washam Fan leaves the room [18:28:10] Washam Fan joins the room [19:49:24] Exodus joins the room [19:51:08] Exodus leaves the room [19:56:58] bert joins the room [19:59:20] mark.ellison joins the room [20:00:00] bert has set the subject to: NetConf session at IETF74 [20:00:10] meeting materials are at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/74/materials.html [20:00:40] dromasca joins the room [20:01:04] mehmet - starting the meeting [20:02:15] is the audio OK? [20:02:28] it works for me [20:02:32] thanks [20:02:35] good here too [20:03:14] badra joins the room [20:03:33] balengyel joins the room [20:03:39] wg status [20:03:46] Stephen joins the room [20:03:59] netconf over tls - one DISCUSS to cear [20:04:05] to clear [20:04:16] fyi: approx 30 people in the meeting room [20:05:31] david_partain joins the room [20:05:38] david_partain leaves the room [20:06:06] david_partain joins the room [20:06:09] david_partain leaves the room [20:06:28] dlpartain joins the room [20:06:47] partial locking - balazs [20:07:08] audio ok for those on audio? [20:07:15] yes [20:07:20] yes [20:07:21] excellent [20:11:55] it will help to monitor both netconf and non-netconf locks, but non-netconf locks monitoring is missing [20:12:26] Atarashi Yoshifumi joins the room [20:12:53] Washam, is your comment about the monitoring draft? [20:12:54] mikemlb joins the room [20:12:58] joelja joins the room [20:13:29] hideki joins the room [20:13:33] lhotka joins the room [20:13:39] NETCONF monitoring schema - Martin [20:13:41] lock-id issue [20:13:47] dperkins3600 joins the room [20:14:19] mark - r u on jabber? [20:17:19] ietfdbh joins the room [20:18:33] washam, if it's a lock-id issue, then no one here got that and can you try to explain? [20:22:06] It is relevant to first bullet on last page of partial-lock, but it is also relevant to monitoring draft [20:22:27] raj joins the room [20:22:55] jishac joins the room [20:23:58] If there is an intention to monitor non netconf lock in monitoring draft, it is helpful to differentiate non-netconf lockid. [20:24:27] you can issue this concern at the end of the presentation, i think, thanks [20:24:36] weshardaker joins the room [20:25:11] ok [20:32:18] taking washam's question [20:33:39] best to express the concern as a question to mailing list [20:34:09] explain the concern and what section in the drafts it refers [20:35:53] is there an intention to monitoring all kinds of locks supported by a device or only Netconf locks [20:37:12] Juergen Schoenwaelder joins the room [20:41:11] "with-defaults" capability in NETCONF - balazs [20:42:00] Stephen leaves the room [20:48:59] why with-default has 2 values whereas basic handler has 3 values? inconsistency? [20:53:39] badra leaves the room [20:57:32] Stephen joins the room [21:01:17] ten in favor of alternative one [21:01:19] zero against [21:01:28] jabber room - opinions? [21:01:38] alternative 2 - none in favor [21:01:56] alternative - add a test-only option [21:02:02] seven in favor [21:07:09] Stephen leaves the room [21:10:02] badra joins the room [21:12:04] You can get namespace declaration conflicts if the implementation echos namespace attributes that clash with implementation generated attributes. [21:13:34] acassen joins the room [21:13:35] juergen - what clash means? [21:13:50] andy says it's override [21:14:08] But it is a conflict on the same level as far as I can tell. [21:14:15] acassen leaves the room [21:14:38] discuss on list [21:15:37] generic solution for message integrity [21:15:46] mehmet presenting [21:16:25] any material? [21:16:54] slide 7 in the chairs slides [21:20:50] dlpartain leaves the room [21:22:52] raj leaves the room [21:24:03] In my view, nothing needs to be done except adding the security considerations text from TLS to the SSH transport when it is updated or via an errata. [21:26:31] juergen - dbh is going to make the same comment [21:27:07] raj joins the room [21:28:09] raj leaves the room [21:28:32] badra leaves the room [21:35:55] if escaping is used, I suggest using ]]>]] to escape ]]>]], anyway, a length indicator is the perfect [21:39:23] robust configuration management - bob cole [21:45:40] joelja leaves the room [21:49:27] I find the terminology confusing (agent - server, verfication - validation) - it will help to rewrite the ID with the usual terminology we use. Netconf has client/server and validation means something very specific in the XML world. And a confirmed commit is - well a confirmed commit, there is little value to create new terms for such things. 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