[15:04:49] gorryf joins the room [15:05:19] This room is the multimob BoF (2nd BoF on Multicast Mobility) [15:06:10] BoF Chairs: Gorry Fairhurst [mailto:gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk], and Behcet Sarikaya [mailto:sarikaya@ieee.org] [15:07:45] jariarkko joins the room [15:08:53] yoshihiko.saeki@jabber.org joins the room [15:10:31] CHENGANG joins the room [15:12:48] Behcet - Intro [15:13:26] Marshall will jabber - in the mean time I will channel remote participants... [15:17:14] Behcet presentation on the problem statement [15:18:54] jsimbol joins the room [15:19:13] MING joins the room [15:19:43] astaikos joins the room [15:24:45] Next-up: Dirk on Operator Requirements [15:25:05] Gabriel Hege joins the room [15:32:53] Gabriel Hege leaves the room [15:33:01] Gang: Operator Requirements 2 (brief presentation) [15:33:25] Ralph Droms joins the room [15:36:14] Rajeev [15:40:22] Thomas: IGMP/MLD tuning and adaptation for mobile cases [15:41:16] Are these "handovers" all within a single access technology? I.e., not related to discussion in netext2 earlier today? [15:43:09] Currently we see this as within the same L2 technology [15:43:21] ok, thanks. [15:44:47] Suresh [15:45:15] - On PMIP solution space [15:45:47] HUI joins the room [15:50:55] Thomas at Mic [15:51:18] Rajeev [15:51:33] Rajeev don't like any changes to Proxy Mobile IPv6 [15:51:42] Gorry: on the Charter text and milestones [15:51:46] if there are , then I would like to understand why [15:51:51] right now, charter discussion [15:56:34] comment: I think it is obvious that we need to do SOMETHING about multicast in proxy MIP. The word "multicast" does not appear in RFC 5213. However, the main question from my perspective is the suitable ambition level. The implementor crow wants to do as little as possible, the researchers want to do as optimized as possible. My opinion is that we have to learn to walk before we can run. I like the way the charter divides the PMIP work into basic work and extensions. At least the basic is needed. Hopefully the audience can provide input on whether they believe the extensions are needed as well. [15:58:09] alberttian joins the room [15:59:05] Hitoshi [15:59:06] thanks hui [16:03:25] Thomas [16:07:09] MING leaves the room [16:07:40] HUI leaves the room [16:08:25] Albert [16:09:00] Dirk - on operators perspective [16:10:15] CHENGANG leaves the room [16:10:37] jsimbol leaves the room [16:11:51] Ralph Droms leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:11:51] Ralph Droms joins the room [16:16:41] gorryf leaves the room [16:18:55] astaikos leaves the room [16:27:43] Ralph Droms leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:27:44] Ralph Droms joins the room [16:29:20] Ralph Droms leaves the room [16:29:21] Ralph Droms joins the room [16:30:30] Ralph Droms leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [16:30:30] Ralph Droms joins the room [16:30:55] Ralph Droms leaves the room [16:35:17] alberttian leaves the room [18:17:37] jariarkko leaves the room [19:06:47] yoshihiko.saeki@jabber.org leaves the room