- Friday, November 14, 2014

mptcp@jabber.ietf.org

Friday, November 14, 2014< ^ >

ayourtch has set the subject to: Materials at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/materials.html

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[18:30:32] <Jordan Melzer> I can hear you.
[18:31:09] <Jordan Melzer> I will go get another headset
[18:35:31] <tobia castaldi> can you hear me?
[18:38:31] <tobia castaldi> are  you still there?
[18:40:55] <Jordan Melzer> I am.
[18:41:05] <Jordan Melzer> I can't hear anything at the moment, but I see slides.
[18:41:07] <Jordan Melzer> THey aren't mine.
[18:41:07] <tobia castaldi> can you hear me?
[18:41:15] <Jordan Melzer> NO
[18:41:24] <Jordan Melzer> Sorry... no.
[18:41:32] <tobia castaldi> yes
[18:41:36] <tobia castaldi> i can hear you
[18:42:03] <tobia castaldi> try to exit and join again
[18:42:07] <tobia castaldi> Presentation is over
[18:42:08] <Jordan Melzer> Okay.
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[18:42:59] <Jordan Melzerq> I can see you.
[18:43:17] <Jordan Melzerq> I can hear you
[18:43:28] <tobia castaldi> ok
[18:43:55] <Jordan Melzerq> Okay
[18:44:06] <Jordan Melzerq> Thanks.
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[21:51:21] <Philip Eardley> anyone hear anything?
[21:52:14] <Sebastien Barre> I don't
[21:52:15] <jlcJohn> crickets...
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[21:52:37] <Edward Lopez> Yoshi just asked if you can hear him
[21:52:57] <rscheff> Minutes: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mptcp/minutes
[21:53:08] <Gregory Detal> I don't hear anything
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[21:53:35] <Edward Lopez> Can you hear us
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[21:53:40] <rscheff> how aout the audio stream
[21:53:51] <Edward Lopez> I'm the jabber scribe for this session
[21:54:09] <Philip Eardley> no. the audio stream is broken for coral1
[21:54:15] <Edward Lopez> yoshi is trying to resolve the audio issue
[21:54:30] <Philip Eardley> seems it's not pointing to the right address
[21:54:43] <Philip Eardley> i mean the normal audio stream - rather than meetecho
[21:55:10] <rscheff> we're in coral-1
[21:55:30] <Edward Lopez> can you hear us now?
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[21:56:29] <Philip Eardley> no
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[21:56:59] <Lars> we'll wait with starting the meeting until you all get audio
[21:57:31] <Philip Eardley> i just sent a ticket to mtd that http://ietf91streaming doesnt work for coral1
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[21:58:05] <Edward Lopez> Audio test
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[21:58:50] <Meetecho> working on the audio as I type
[21:59:24] <rscheff> one minute for start of session
[21:59:26] <Edward Lopez> We have to start in one minute
[21:59:29] <rscheff> anyone having audio?
[21:59:37] <Karen Seo> no
[21:59:38] <Edward Lopez> audio test
[21:59:49] <Philip Eardley> I just heard a squawk. it went again
[22:00:00] <Steve Kent> I have no audio either
[22:00:02] <Sebastien Barre> just heard 1-2-3-4-5, but from far away
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[22:00:34] <Edward Lopez> starting meeting, still working on audio
[22:00:37] <rscheff> session commencing
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[22:01:36] <Edward Lopez> Remainder to include -mptcp- in draft names
[22:01:41] <Edward Lopez> Note well
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[22:01:52] <Edward Lopez> Agenda
[22:02:20] <Edward Lopez> Entire agenda on MPTCP proxy
[22:02:30] <Edward Lopez> Milestones
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[22:03:40] <Edward Lopez> WG Item Status
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[22:04:21] <Edward Lopez> draft-ietf-mptcp-experience - adopted as WG item last Aug
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[22:04:55] <Edward Lopez> draft-ietf-mptcp-rfc6824bis - 03 version submitted
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[22:05:11] <Edward Lopez> draft-ietf-mptcp-attack - LC finished
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[22:05:26] <Edward Lopez> no new implementation updates
[22:05:38] <Philip Eardley> eureka!!!!
[22:05:41] <Meetecho> audio back
[22:05:42] <Edward Lopez> Charter Item - MPTCP Proxy
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[22:06:54] <Edward Lopez> Rolf - mic
[22:07:29] <AA AA> is audio fine now?
[22:07:31] <Lars> @meetecho you guys rock
[22:07:47] <Gregory Detal> yes audio is fine
[22:07:51] <Edward Lopez> any questions?
[22:08:04] <Meetecho> Lars: tnx :D
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[22:08:46] <Edward Lopez> draft-deng-mptcp-proxy
presentation start
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[22:09:32] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Why Standard MPTCP Proxy?
[22:10:12] <Edward Lopez> SLide - A Bunch of ISP Deployment Use Cases
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[22:11:26] <Jordan Melzer> Anybody else seeing MeetEcho cut out?
[22:11:59] <Philip Eardley> i can hear. but can't see the slides or the audio (just a mess of pixels)
[22:12:14] <Meetecho> in case slides break, try the webinar mode for that: http://conf.meetecho.com/video?s=coral-1&r=mptcp&c=8891152
[22:12:24] <Philip Eardley> /see the slides or //video !
[22:12:28] <Meetecho> you may be getting audio twice, so in case mute the flash audio (black box that appears top right)
[22:13:02] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Deployment Considerations
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[22:14:14] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Deployment Considerations (2)
[22:14:26] <Edward Lopez> Off-path MPTCP Proxy
[22:15:21] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Updates since -00
[22:16:57] <Edward Lopez> Slide - IPR Disclosure: A Clarification
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[22:19:43] <Edward Lopez> Ed Lopez - mic
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[22:21:08] <Edward Lopez> ? mic
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[22:21:23] <Edward Lopez> Slide - What's Next?
[22:22:24] <Edward Lopez> Frisco - Mic
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[22:23:12] <Edward Lopez> Dirk - Mic
[22:23:17] <Edward Lopez> Serge - Mic
[22:24:10] <Edward Lopez> Yoshi - Mic
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[22:24:58] <Edward Lopez> Any questions from Jabber?
[22:25:34] <Edward Lopez> Alper - mic
[22:26:52] <Edward Lopez> Next Speaker - KT's TCP proxy experience
[22:27:36] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Introduction
[22:28:50] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Introduction: Explicit Deployment Model
[22:29:09] <rscheff> if you made a comment on the mic, please check if we got the essence of your comment in the  minutes: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/mptcp/minutes
[22:30:42] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Main Features
[22:32:27] <Edward Lopez> SLide - MP OAM and pM-UE
[22:33:36] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Deployment topology @ commercial site
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[22:34:27] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Future work
[22:35:23] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Testing result
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[22:37:56] <Edward Lopez> FInal Slide
[22:38:07] <Edward Lopez> Questions from Jabber?
[22:38:32] <Jordan Melzer> Are all of the proxies application layer?
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[22:39:09] <Edward Lopez> lingli - mic
[22:41:24] <Edward Lopez> serge - mic
[22:42:27] <Edward Lopez> ed - mic & jabber (jordan) mic
[22:43:21] <Edward Lopez> lars - mic
[22:46:34] <Edward Lopez> Next Presentation - MPTCP proxy Analysis
draft-wei-mptcp-proxy-mechanism
[22:46:42] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Content
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[22:47:15] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Purpose of MPTCP Proxy
[22:48:07] <Edward Lopez> SLide - Design Pronciples
[22:49:25] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Solution1: Intercept traffic and act as proxy
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[22:52:44] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Solution1: Intercept traffic and act as proxy (second slide)
[22:53:43] <Edward Lopez> Alper - mic
[22:54:21] <Jordan Melzer> Wouldn't the proxy on the right send an MP capable message and be the proxy in this case?
[22:54:26] <Edward Lopez> Ed - mic
[22:54:34] <Jordan Melzer> For solution 1
[22:54:56] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Solution2: Explicitly preconfigured end host
[22:55:32] <Edward Lopez> Jordan - Correct from my point of view.  CPE gateways can act as Solution1 describes
[22:56:01] <Jordan Melzer> In this slide, how does the proxy know where the traffic should go?
[22:56:03] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Solution2: Explicitly preconfigured end host (scond slide)
[22:56:33] <Edward Lopez> alper - mic
[22:57:43] <Edward Lopez> jabber - mic
[22:57:47] <Jordan Melzer> Thanks -- so a new option
[22:58:12] <aaron> yep
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[22:58:46] <rscheff> go on jordan
[22:58:58] <rscheff> yupp
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[22:59:02] <Edward Lopez> Next Presentation - MPTCP Proxy Implementation
(Remote - Jordan)
[22:59:13] <rscheff> yoshifumi is on it
[22:59:23] <Edward Lopez> Yoshi is working it
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[22:59:35] <rscheff> ta-daa--
[22:59:42] <Edward Lopez> Slides are up
[23:00:14] <Edward Lopez> Slide - MPTCP Use Case; Bonding over WiFi
[23:01:38] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Proxy Design
[23:03:21] <Lars> jordan: do you want questions at the end or during?
[23:03:53] <Edward Lopez> Questions from Jabber?
[23:04:06] <Edward Lopez> lars - mic
[23:05:12] <Edward Lopez> ed - mic
[23:06:09] <Edward Lopez> yoshi - mic
[23:06:19] <Edward Lopez> we have questions?
[23:06:31] <Edward Lopez> dan wing - mic
[23:07:20] <Edward Lopez> alper - mic
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[23:09:30] <Edward Lopez> lars - mic
[23:10:21] <Gregory Detal> I only see big pixels from the 2 steams
[23:10:49] <Edward Lopez> Next Presentation - Designing and implementing efficient MPTCP proxies and use cases
[23:11:10] <Edward Lopez> (Gregory Detal - Remote)
[23:11:16] <Edward Lopez> Cover Slide
[23:11:52] <Edward Lopez> Slide - TCP extensions adoption on servers take time
[23:13:36] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Converters accelerate the deployment of new extensions
[23:14:46] <Edward Lopez> Slide - HTTP proxy is not sufficient
[23:14:47] <Lars> your slides don't have numbers...
[23:15:19] <Edward Lopez> Slide - The converter uses a redirection mechanism
[23:16:52] <Edward Lopez> SLide - The converter allows for seamless live streaming experience
[23:17:54] <Edward Lopez> (Slide animation)
[23:18:08] <Edward Lopez> (Slide Video)
[23:19:30] <Edward Lopez> (video ends)
[23:19:47] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Setup used during the evaluation
[23:20:16] <Edward Lopez> Slide - The impact is small
[23:20:32] <Edward Lopez> (slide animation)
[23:21:15] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Internet bonding
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[23:21:26] <Edward Lopez> (slide animation)
[23:22:03] <Edward Lopez> (slide animation)
[23:22:42] <Edward Lopez> Slide - Internet bonding
[23:22:48] <Edward Lopez> Questions from Jabber?
[23:22:56] <Edward Lopez> Slide Summary
[23:24:27] <Edward Lopez> Ed - mic
[23:25:04] <Jordan Melzer> How do you insert multiple paths at the OpenWRT router with MPTCP on both ends?
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[23:25:07] <Edward Lopez> Session Close!
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[23:25:54] <Jordan Melzer> Thanks.
[23:26:18] <rscheff> ed/gregory: i didn't get the response, sorry
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