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[13:37:37] <wolfgang.beck01> which presentation?
[13:38:45] <Gonzalo> RTSP presentation.
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[13:38:56] <wolfgang.beck01> thx
[13:42:11] <Gonzalo> Discussion on 503 responses.
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[13:42:24] <Gonzalo> James pointed out that folks should have a look at the soc WG
[13:42:44] <Gonzalo>  Overload in SIP and RTSP are not the same but the authors will have a look at the soc work to decide.
[13:43:57] <Jean-Francois> noted
[13:45:03] <Gonzalo> RTSP presentation ends.
[13:45:16] <Gonzalo> Next presenter: Roni
[13:45:23] <Gonzalo> Media capabilities.
[13:51:59] <martin.stiemerling> NOW: ICE for TCP
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[13:52:46] <martin.stiemerling> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mmusic-2.pdf
[13:52:50] <martin.stiemerling> slide 2
[13:54:04] <martin.stiemerling> slide 3
[13:56:37] <martin.stiemerling> slide 6
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[13:57:37] <martin.stiemerling> slide 7
[14:01:48] <Gonzalo> End of the ICE-TCP presentation
[14:01:55] <Gonzalo> NExt presenter: James Polk
[14:02:08] <Gonzalo> Service class for SDP
[14:02:12] <martin.stiemerling> slides are here http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mmusic-4.pdf
[14:02:16] <martin.stiemerling> slide 2
[14:03:28] <martin.stiemerling> slide 3
[14:06:14] <martin.stiemerling> next slide
[14:06:20] <martin.stiemerling> slide 5
[14:06:27] <martin.stiemerling> next slide
[14:09:32] <Gonzalo> Jonathan Lennox: it is not clear what the differences are between the different application types.
[14:09:50] <Gonzalo> Keeping the draft simple would be good.
[14:10:14] <Gonzalo> Jonathan sees value in having a similar mechanism, but simpler.
[14:15:50] <Gonzalo> Dave Oran: the service classes are layer 7 agreements. We should not worry too much about defining semantics.
[14:16:20] <Gonzalo> James: it is not the receiver, it is the sender.
[14:16:27] <Gonzalo> Dave Oran: then, this is useless.
[14:17:06] <Gonzalo> Colin Perkins: it is useful for middle boxes.
[14:17:10] <Gonzalo> Dave Oran: true
[14:20:08] <Gonzalo> Gonzalo: we need to understand what are the use cases or the requirements. Now we are discussing how to use a particular mechanism.
[14:20:43] <Gonzalo> Chairs: this will progress as an individual draft for the time being.
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[14:21:04] <Gonzalo> The meeting ends.
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