[12:35:19] marco.liebsch joins the room [12:36:01] marco.liebsch leaves the room [14:03:25] Fenghua joins the room [14:03:48] Fenghua leaves the room [15:52:07] jlaganie joins the room [15:56:48] marc.blanchet.qc joins the room [16:00:02] Margaret Wasserman joins the room [16:03:43] teco.boot joins the room [16:04:21] Scott Brim joins the room [16:04:38] behcet.sarikaya joins the room [16:05:18] rvdp joins the room [16:05:56] tsavo_work@jabber.org/Meebo joins the room [16:06:10] Scott Brim leaves the room [16:06:58] Is there someone here that would like to be a jabber scribe? [16:07:05] Margaret is leaving the room [16:07:11] Is there anyone on line here who is not in the room? [16:07:20] I am not leaving the room now... In about an hour. [16:07:26] Thanks, though, Behcet! [16:07:45] Paul Selkirk joins the room [16:07:47] Yeah I can help O:) [16:08:05] Pierrick on PD draft [16:08:13] sorry PS [16:09:33] Audio difficulties from the next room [16:09:40] Ole Troan joins the room [16:10:05] yohba727 joins the room [16:10:24] Pierrick Issues resolution slide [16:10:58] matthijs joins the room [16:11:00] slides are at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/77/slides/mif-1.pdf [16:11:05] rvdp leaves the room [16:11:16] arifumi joins the room [16:11:27] satoru.matsushima joins the room [16:11:45] lebb joins the room [16:12:01] Clarifications slide [16:13:04] conclusions slide [16:13:22] Chair: LC is ongoing [16:13:29] ending March 26 [16:14:05] Scott Brim joins the room [16:14:17] Chair: maybe another last call after revision [16:14:44] Margaret on Current practices draft [16:14:47] no slides [16:15:04] No update but close to go LC [16:15:58] rvdp joins the room [16:16:13] Julien on MIF current practice [16:17:22] I dont know where are the slides? [16:18:03] Matrix of problems vs OSes [16:19:14] Woj on DHCPv6 Route Option [16:19:31] http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/77/slides/mif-3.ppt [16:20:02] DHCPv6 Route Option slide [16:20:39] two clients two routers [16:20:51] shared VLAN [16:22:24] scenario 1 slide [16:22:47] additional background [16:26:06] yohba727 leaves the room [16:27:23] Marc on mic [16:27:28] lebb leaves the room [16:28:28] Default router B will send DNS server info [16:30:12] Jari on mic [16:30:48] Practical case is IPTV with two routers behind [16:31:18] No solution for DNS for this case [16:31:34] Marc is back on mic [16:32:48] David Hankins on mic [16:34:06] Fenghua joins the room [16:34:14] Fenghua leaves the room [16:34:47] Fenghua joins the room [16:35:36] Jari: looking for a place? mif would be a better place [16:35:54] Real question is do we really need this? [16:37:00] Jari: I am OK to add this to mif charter good thing to do [16:37:24] Woj: operators are interested [16:37:29] Yuri on mic [16:40:24] mattlarson joins the room [16:40:29] mattlarson leaves the room [16:40:35] rvdp leaves the room [16:40:52] Woj: multiple prefixes need to be configured [16:41:00] Bernie at mic [16:42:27] Ole Troan leaves the room: Replaced by new connection. [16:42:35] Fenghua leaves the room [16:42:38] less important than sce 2 on multiple interfaces [16:42:39] Ole Troan joins the room [16:42:47] Julien on mic [16:42:53] Fenghua joins the room [16:43:27] marco.liebsch joins the room [16:43:36] Ole Troan leaves the room [16:43:38] sce 1 seems artificial [16:44:00] Woj: sce 1 exists in v4 today [16:44:37] Marc on mic [16:46:09] Teemu on mic [16:46:26] it looks interesting to look further [16:46:38] Zhen on mic [16:46:52] it is a timely problem [16:47:05] we have same problem [16:47:17] Margaret on mic as individual [16:47:41] maybe part of a solution at the IP layer [16:48:12] Higher layer solution is also possible [16:48:33] Jari: conclusion is this is interesting [16:48:52] solution aspect I worry about multiple DHCP servers [16:49:10] we should continue to dicauss [16:49:30] we should continue to discuss [16:49:48] Woj: continue on mif [16:49:55] Jari: yes [16:50:10] maybe routing community as well [16:50:42] marc.blanchet.qc leaves the room [16:50:52] marco.liebsch leaves the room [16:50:58] Marc: I agree it should be in mif [16:51:07] we need to see the whole picture [16:51:40] marc.blanchet.qc joins the room [16:52:11] Hui: we should consider this as future work [16:52:57] matthijs leaves the room [16:52:57] Teemu on DNS server selection http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/77/slides/mif-2.pdf [16:53:06] Changes slide [16:53:51] slide 3 [16:53:52] matthijs joins the room [16:53:52] Margaret Wasserman leaves the room [16:54:57] slide 4 [16:55:10] Zhen on ic [16:55:26] Zhen on mic [16:58:07] this is based on DNS config on interface not on host [16:58:49] dnsops co-chair on mic [17:00:09] binding of domain names to interfaces I am not sure it will work [17:00:28] Teemu: we need cooperation between two WGs [17:00:43] s/Teemu/Peter/ [17:01:43] yohba727 joins the room [17:01:46] Zhen on policy routing [17:02:01] http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/77/slides/mif-4.ppt [17:02:59] Hui: why TOS? [17:03:09] Zhen: we can omit TOS [17:03:32] DHCPv6 extension is defined similarly [17:04:02] Bernie on mic [17:04:35] v4 uses costly encoding [17:05:28] v6 defining two options we should not define so many options [17:06:12] Jari: I agree, we should not do multiple ways [17:06:27] for v4 we already have a mechanism [17:07:45] Jari: best possible solution is routing protocols [17:08:08] DHCP v4 informational routes already exists [17:12:18] Behcet is presenting "DHCPv6 extension for configuring hosts with multiple interfaces". [17:13:18] Hui suggested to take a look at all of previous questions also related to this draft. [17:13:40] @yosh: thanks [17:14:06] @yoshi: thanks [17:14:51] Zhen slides are at http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/77/slides/mif-6.ppt [17:15:31] Margaret Wasserman joins the room [17:15:40] slide 4 [17:17:02] Problem 3 slide [17:18:13] yohba727 leaves the room [17:19:40] Proposal slide [17:19:48] Margaret Wasserman leaves the room [17:20:02] add text on IP family selection problem [17:20:09] to PS draft [17:20:28] Jari on mic [17:20:52] there are issues but different ways to solve [17:22:16] Jari: why do NAT44 and NAT64? [17:22:32] Jari: we dont have any networks that do both [17:22:53] Zhen: it happens in mobile networks [17:24:31] Jari: this is not an essential problem [17:25:07] marc.blanchet.qc leaves the room [17:25:32] Jari: why in this WG [17:25:47] There is behave, 6man etc. [17:27:01] Dapeng on API extension [17:27:01] arjen joins the room [17:27:43] where are the slides? [17:27:54] Background-IPv6 draft [17:28:07] Background-IPv6 slide [17:28:17] MPTCP slide [17:28:59] marc.blanchet.qc joins the room [17:29:15] mccreary joins the room [17:29:17] no slide for this item ? [17:29:39] arjen leaves the room [17:30:43] I think not yet posted? [17:30:54] HIP slide [17:31:42] HIP (cont.) slide [17:32:25] Explicit handling of locators [17:32:38] MIF API extensions slide [17:33:21] Requirement slide [17:33:36] tetsuya.innami joins the room [17:33:52] Tentative way slide [17:34:48] Yuri on mic [17:35:24] sctp is missing in the list [17:35:51] Jari: this is interesting, we should do work on API [17:36:18] mccreary leaves the room [17:36:40] Needs cooperation, mctcp etc. [17:36:49] we should not define many APIs [17:37:56] Marc on mic [17:40:12] advanced socket API: RFC3542 [17:40:42] Margaret: analysis draft is ready for last call? [17:40:44] "6.7. Summary of Outgoing Interface Selection For a given outgoing packet on a given socket, the outgoing interface is determined in the following order: 1. if an interface is specified in an IPV6_PKTINFO ancillary data item, the interface is used. " [17:43:14] Margaret: we are done, pls read analysis draft [17:43:20] behcet.sarikaya leaves the room [17:43:22] matthijs leaves the room [17:44:21] marc.blanchet.qc leaves the room [17:44:23] Scott Brim leaves the room [17:45:36] arifumi leaves the room [17:49:06] jlaganie leaves the room [17:50:23] satoru.matsushima leaves the room [17:51:27] tsavo_work@jabber.org/Meebo leaves the room [17:52:36] Fenghua leaves the room [17:56:07] washam.fan joins the room [17:56:29] washam.fan leaves the room [18:10:34] arifumi joins the room [18:11:15] Paul Selkirk leaves the room [18:11:17] arifumi leaves the room [18:22:23] jpc joins the room [18:22:33] tetsuya.innami leaves the room [18:22:36] jpc leaves the room [18:36:47] teco.boot leaves the room