[07:03:37] Fuad Abinader joins the room [08:09:26] Fuad Abinader leaves the room [08:09:44] Fuad Abinader joins the room [09:33:31] Fuad Abinader leaves the room [09:35:07] Fuad Abinader joins the room [09:43:26] Fuad Abinader leaves the room [13:06:24] tony joins the room [13:06:41] tony leaves the room [13:07:41] weiber joins the room [13:08:34] hannestschofenig joins the room [13:08:43] pierrick seite joins the room [13:09:03] pierrick seite leaves the room [13:13:58] hannestschofenig leaves the room [13:14:29] hannestschofenig joins the room [13:22:46] pierrick seite joins the room [13:22:57] Please let me know when Raj gives his presentation about alternative Mipv6 security [13:25:42] Fuad Abinader joins the room [13:26:55] behcet.sarikaya joins the room [13:26:56] ryuji@mt.view joins the room [13:27:28] I can do Jabber [13:27:32] wmhaddad joins the room [13:28:21] weiber leaves the room [13:28:25] Charlie is absent skipped his presentatation [13:28:45] Now Carlos is presenting DHCPv6 PD for nemo draft [13:29:26] sureshk joins the room [13:30:10] Carlos presenting http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mext-0.pdf [13:36:51] I see Charlie in the room [13:37:03] Alex on mic [13:37:38] weiber joins the room [13:39:41] Alex wants to know if there are alternate solutions possible for the "MR not at home" scenario [13:40:11] Carlos agrees that other solutions are possible but the documented solution is the simplest [13:41:29] Alex wants to know how to use a centralized DHCP server without the HA being a relay [13:42:30] Carlos mentions that the HA as a relay scenario causes a lot of complexities and thus was left out [13:45:01] Charlie to present http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mext-3.pptx [13:50:39] Joonhyung Lim joins the room [13:56:15] Julien to present http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mext-1.pptx [13:58:49] ryuji@mt.view leaves the room [14:02:16] ryuji@mt.view joins the room [14:08:14] kongyong1 joins the room [14:09:31] kongyong1 leaves the room: offline [14:16:56] Alex to present http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mext-4.pptx [14:30:13] Marcelo to start rechartering discussion [14:30:30] how to handle the alternative security mechanism for mipv6 [14:34:26] Chairs have come up with 3 options [14:34:38] 1) recharter to make a requirements document [14:34:54] 2) recharter to create multiple experimental solutions [14:35:02] 3) do nothing [14:35:24] Julien prefers 3) [14:38:47] Charlie prefers 2) [14:41:38] Jean Michel prefers option 3) as he does not see any deficiencies with IPsec [14:44:03] Raj Patil prefers 2) [14:46:11] Rajeev prefers 2) [14:46:44] Jari clarifies option 2)\ [14:47:11] to say there will probably be multiple solutions if alternative proposals are allowed [14:47:57] and hence the experimental tag [14:52:17] Charlie just wants the operator to be able to pick arbitrary security solutions that are acceptable to them. [14:52:50] and not necessarily specify an alternate security solution [14:57:12] Erik wants to ensure that there is at least 1 mandatory to implement security mechanism [14:57:29] as not doing so will harm interoperability [15:02:18] Jari likes option 2) as well [15:02:35] and he agrees with Erik [15:06:14] Marcelo is concerned about the lack of energy to review drafts [15:06:29] Joonhyung Lim leaves the room [15:08:27] weiber leaves the room: offline [15:08:29] hannestschofenig leaves the room [15:08:42] Yuri does not believe that there is enough deployment experience to select a single alternate security solution [15:09:54] Yuri prefers 2) [15:10:51] Jari requests Marcelo to get sense of the room [15:11:14] Option 1) 2 hands [15:11:37] wmhaddad leaves the room: Computer went to sleep [15:12:03] Option 2) abt 25 hands [15:12:13] option 3) abt 3 hands [15:12:28] Result is rough consensus for 2) [15:13:26] Raj Patil to present http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/slides/mext-2.pptx [15:22:00] behcet.sarikaya leaves the room [15:22:27] ryuji@mt.view leaves the room [15:25:35] End of meeting [15:25:41] sureshk leaves the room [15:26:29] Fuad Abinader leaves the room [15:27:35] pierrick seite leaves the room [15:42:43] wmhaddad joins the room [15:55:30] wmhaddad leaves the room [15:58:42] ryuji@mt.view joins the room [16:13:26] ryuji@mt.view leaves the room [16:14:14] ryuji@mt.view joins the room [16:46:31] ryuji@mt.view leaves the room