[06:20:47] Desire joins the room [06:24:00] Tadamichi Matsuyama joins the room [06:24:57] Tadamichi Matsuyama leaves the room [06:25:29] Hajime Tazaki joins the room [06:25:52] Fuad Abinader joins the room [06:25:54] behcet.sarikaya joins the room [06:26:09] Folks I am the jabber scribe [06:26:39] George on Flow Binding draft [06:27:08] yo.takata joins the room [06:27:13] YuzoTateno joins the room [06:27:54] Tadamichi Matsuyama joins the room [06:28:17] Tadamichi Matsuyama leaves the room [06:28:42] Raj on mic [06:29:42] ko joins the room [06:30:51] slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09nov/slides/mext-0.pdf [06:31:31] Marcelo says please check the draft for one week [06:31:46] thereafter the draft will go to IESG [06:31:50] toshio.hiraga joins the room [06:34:27] Yuri is asking about another document on flow description [06:35:05] Marcelo says mext is not standardizing multiple solutions for the same problem [06:35:36] Marcelo: another one can be standardized only after rechartering [06:36:51] Raj asked how another solution for flow desc. can be standardized [06:37:18] Marcelo: discuss recharter and then we can do [06:37:25] Raj: disagrees [06:37:54] Raj: traffic selector type means we may have multiple ways [06:38:25] discussion on this between Raj and Marcelo [06:38:40] s-takuo joins the room [06:40:04] Yuri at mic [06:41:16] yo.takata leaves the room [06:41:54] Marcelo reierated the process for rechartering [06:42:07] George on TS [06:42:17] CHENGANG joins the room [06:42:30] CHENGANG leaves the room [06:42:39] slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09nov/slides/mext-1.pdf [06:42:41] charliep joins the room [06:43:49] George says ready for WGLC [06:44:00] Marcelo, is it ready? [06:44:56] Marcelo: issue a WGLC Monday next week on this draft [06:45:57] Julien on IPSec with DSMIP slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09nov/slides/mext-2.pdf [06:46:32] architectural issues slide [06:51:40] DSMIPv6 MN Outbound ProcessingBUs to new CoA, data to old CoA: slide [06:52:31] DSMIPv6 HA Inbound Processing:NAT detection BUs slide [06:59:59] Discussion on this slide, George, Raj & Julien [07:00:54] Conclusion slide [07:02:40] yo.takata joins the room [07:05:14] ko leaves the room [07:06:56] yo.takata leaves the room [07:07:10] yo.takata joins the room [07:07:53] Jouni on TLS-based security [07:08:16] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09nov/slides/mext-3.pdf [07:08:29] solution architecture slide [07:08:46] TPLUNKE joins the room [07:08:54] TPLUNKE leaves the room [07:09:04] solution arch cont'ed slide [07:13:07] s-takuo leaves the room [07:13:38] bootstrapping slide [07:16:08] MN-HA communication [07:17:50] Jouni is asking for adoption as WG draft [07:18:02] toshio.hiraga leaves the room [07:19:42] Marcelo: configuration issues when both the legacy and TLS are supported [07:20:20] Raj on mic [07:20:43] Raj clarifies that this is an optional mechanism [07:21:48] Big queue at the mic [07:22:22] Julien at mic [07:24:23] Jean-Michel at mic [07:25:56] Marcelo: we are trying to understand the problem [07:26:13] Marcelo: we're not chartered to do anything [07:30:47] Sri: what is the motivation? [07:31:37] Raj: DSMIPv6 implementation is very difficult with IPSec on the clients [07:32:49] Marcelo: the problem is you have to modify IPSEC/IKEv2 to implement DSMIP [07:33:31] If we modify DSMIP then there is no issue [07:37:50] Again another big Q at mic [07:40:37] Ryuji: the problem is DSMIP [07:44:25] Jari: how to move forward? [07:44:58] Jari: ultimately it is running code [07:45:29] if there is interest for an alternative we should pursue it [07:46:11] Marcelo: how to proceed? [07:46:34] Jari: we are not yet ready [07:47:13] JMC: we should look at what we gain or loose by changing sec. architecture [07:48:11] Marcelo: Suresh will write a draft [07:48:52] Jari: what type of draft? [07:49:39] Raj: IPSEC is used only in VPN [07:49:52] Raj: why are we using IPSec? [07:50:14] Marcelo: we should not question this [07:51:04] Meeting adjourned at 4:51pm [07:51:13] behcet.sarikaya leaves the room [07:52:05] Desire leaves the room [07:52:30] Fuad Abinader leaves the room [07:53:46] yo.takata leaves the room [07:56:51] YuzoTateno leaves the room: Replaced by new connection [08:05:51] charliep leaves the room [08:25:42] Hajime Tazaki leaves the room [08:48:20] telemaco.melia joins the room [08:49:04] telemaco.melia leaves the room [09:26:45] Hajime Tazaki joins the room [09:30:58] dapengliu joins the room [10:05:50] dapengliu leaves the room [13:22:03] Hajime Tazaki leaves the room [23:58:13] Fuad Abinader joins the room [23:58:28] Fuad Abinader leaves the room