[18:25:16] alst joins the room [18:25:25] alst leaves the room [22:03:06] DDD joins the room [22:06:24] Alex Petrescu joins the room [22:24:28] behcet joins the room [22:24:47] DDD leaves the room [22:25:04] desire joins the room [22:27:34] Antonio Moreiras joins the room [22:30:07] domagoj to present extended home link draft [22:30:37] Domagoj slides seem to be http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/mext-1.pdf [22:32:41] (someone could you please which slide is Domagoj on? thanks) [22:33:23] Hesham where is home link? [22:33:36] Hesham it should be at the HA [22:39:20] @Alex there is no slide numbers O:) [22:39:43] (ok no number on slide, but there's always a title :-) [22:40:13] Keeps changing [22:40:39] That means the physical room has difficulty following too. [22:40:44] Hesham we need to look at BU format [22:40:59] Now Packet Format slide [22:41:55] (@behcet: thanks) [22:42:01] Vijay: packet format is confusing [22:48:32] donley.chris joins the room [22:49:06] Christian Kaas-Petersen speaking, I think. [22:49:30] Behcet Sarikaya is BS [22:49:42] BS: I think this draft is good, but the way it's written is not explaining correctly. [22:49:55] BS: the way you want to use it is to use IPv4 PDP context toregister an IPv6... [22:50:09] Domagoj: ok, but I don't think need to explain clearly in ietf doc [22:50:19] Domagoj: this is enough in context of IETF doc [22:50:24] Hesham Soliman is HS: [22:50:34] HS: is 3gpp still interested? [22:50:36] Domagoj: yes [22:52:05] donley.chris leaves the room [22:52:32] Charles Perkins slides seem to be at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/mext-0.ppt [22:52:33] donley.chris joins the room [22:52:34] wmhaddad joins the room [22:54:36] Again no slide numbers [22:54:46] Four issues identified slide [22:55:27] BU de-registration race condition slide [22:58:31] satoru.matsushima joins the room [23:04:21] Hey! I like that Michael Williams(?) idea: delete the SA when delete the BC entry. [23:05:10] correct Micheal Williams [23:05:40] Malicious RA ==> mobile node deregistration slide [23:11:09] More spec about Alt-CoA slide [23:14:10] shamus joins the room [23:14:31] Discussion about IPsec slide [23:19:16] Global mobility of George vs inter-continental flights of Terry - which is bigger, hehe. [23:20:01] IPsec is a big thing. AH is just fine, have it as a MUST. [23:23:28] No, MIP4's authentication showed up in an IPv4 world where IPsec wasn't builtin. [23:25:14] Charles talks about "2116"? "2160"? These rfc numbers aren't relevant, what does he mean? [23:28:12] Chair: keep the MUST? 12 or something [23:28:30] Chair is asking for a vote [23:28:30] Chair: SHOULD? ? [23:28:39] Chair: half half, we do nothing. [23:28:46] result is no consensus [23:29:06] Julien: then we do nothing [23:30:28] BS: BU at the home link issue: is it discussed in the 3775bis? [23:30:32] CP: the raise condition? [23:30:39] BS: enabling sending the bu at the home link [23:30:43] BS: already there? [23:30:50] CP: sonething not deregistration? [23:30:53] CP: mailing list [23:30:58] Chair: what you talk about? [23:31:02] Chair: random? [23:31:15] BS: draft by vijay, bit in the bu, in the bu at the home link [23:31:25] Chair: did you raise the issue during the period? [23:31:27] BS: no [23:31:33] Chair: then it's out [23:31:42] CP: previous issue... then it's//... [23:31:55] Chair: Must or should issue, is not closed. [23:32:15] Hesham Soliman seems to be preparing to present [23:32:41] Hesham on RO for DSMIP [23:32:51] There's one advantage listening to audio as opposed to being physically in the physical room: one can hear all small chat between Chairs and presenters prior to starting presentation :-) [23:33:23] slides are at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/mext-2.pdf [23:33:36] Hesham on Flow Binding draft [23:33:55] Issues before WG LC slide [23:34:49] Support for Default bindings slide [23:43:26] Reliance on MCoA slide [23:44:49] Hesham on RO for DSMIP [23:44:58] The problem slide [23:45:02] satoru.matsushima leaves the room [23:45:40] Yes, but where are the slides? [23:46:15] The slides presented now are not the same with which he started. [23:46:31] In Marcelo's machine O:) [23:46:55] Questions to WG slide [23:47:01] I think it may be this: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/mext-3.pdf [23:47:33] yes [23:48:08] Marcelo: this is just for the authors sake [23:49:23] shamus leaves the room [23:50:11] George and Raj yes it would be nice to work but probably not much interest [23:50:49] Last preso [23:51:10] Charlie is presenting not Raj [23:51:12] slides "Revisiting the MIP6 security archi" seems to be at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/slides/mext-4.pdf [23:51:25] Background slide [23:52:40] Current view slide [23:53:22] So what do we do ... slide [23:54:25] Framework slide [23:55:06] He said he'd propose a BoF [23:56:07] wmhaddad leaves the room [23:56:08] Proposal slide [23:57:56] I agree on this VPN IPsec necessity