[00:48:30] Cullen joins the room [00:55:19] Bernard, are you in Beijing or remote ? [00:56:45] webex is at https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=148485387&UID=0&RT=MiM0NQ%3D%3D [00:57:50] wolfgang.beck01 joins the room [00:58:24] spencerdawkins joins the room [00:58:43] martin.thomson joins the room [01:03:02] mlm.michael.miller joins the room [01:03:47] remote audio sounds good [01:06:07] I am remote. [01:06:44] is there a url for a webex? [01:06:52] https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=148485387&UID=0&RT=MiM0NQ%3D%3D [01:07:13] burn joins the room [01:07:38] Streaming audio at http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf795.m3u [01:08:36] as0-d91k joins the room [01:09:37] pee joins the room [01:12:20] Hadriel Kaplan joins the room [01:13:16] Linyi Tian joins the room [01:14:13] http://piratepad.net/Bs0HcmVQ2R [01:14:32] victor.pascual.avila joins the room [01:15:13] eckelcu joins the room [01:15:59] Hadriel Kaplan leaves the room [01:16:42] Kepeng Li joins the room [01:17:20] the piratepad is interesting... [01:31:23] Mic: If GIN works fine for this, why just fix the aplicablyt part of GIN and say it works for this too [01:31:32] never mind - I just said what spencer said [01:32:20] do you want that on mic cullen? [01:32:28] yah, pelase [01:33:00] If GIN works fine for this, why not just fix the applicably part of GIN and say it works for this too [01:33:49] suzukisn joins the room [01:34:30] I'm sold by Adam - fine with me and I agree that this would need a standards track doc that updates GIN [01:35:09] k [01:35:43] The question in my mind is whether any new functionality is needed. If not, and if we agree with Hadriel that GIN "just works", then we should at least be accurate in the GIN document about what works and what doesn't, and why. [01:36:00] mic? [01:36:22] I am on Skype, so I can talk at the MIC if necessary :) [01:36:31] right, just checking [01:42:49] victor.pascual.avila leaves the room [01:43:13] victor.pascual.avila joins the room [01:46:35] tomkri joins the room [01:48:02] Adam Roach joins the room [01:49:18] Gonzalo joins the room [01:54:09] Adam Roach leaves the room [01:55:45] You will not have a happy conversation with other 3GPP and related SDOs [01:56:07] I think Keith explained why fairly clearly [02:01:03] that never happens! [02:05:00] the XML is a little strange [02:06:37] xcap diff :-) [02:08:30] that was what I was assuming [02:08:42] you don't want to invent a delta format for every format you ever invent [02:08:53] of course, xcap diff has its own problems [02:17:14] no no , not disptach , send them to adam in sipcore [02:18:58] The number of RFCs the problem is split across is not a relevant part of the charter so that should not be an issue. 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