[17:50:51] brian1lindsay joins the room [17:52:49] Adam Roach joins the room [17:53:22] Adam Roach has set the subject to: Martini Interim V: http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/MARTINI/June-Interim-V/ [17:55:54] JohnElwell joins the room [17:58:34] Alan Johnston joins the room [18:01:34] HELIOPOLIS joins the room [18:03:32] Cullen joins the room [18:04:13] HELIOPOLIS leaves the room [18:04:23] Bernard joins the room [18:13:09] spencerdawkins joins the room [18:18:45] so, i think the critical part of removing autouser is what we can standardize... [18:18:50] HKAPLAN1 joins the room [18:19:19] I am sympathetic with cullen's point (speaking as individual) [18:19:50] me too [18:20:50] BTW, Buongiorno [18:21:02] You're in Italy? [18:21:07] ya [18:21:40] or "si" I guess [18:21:40] i'm not disagreeing. i'm saying we can't do that in martini timeframes [18:22:03] "that" = say "ignore user=phone" [18:22:28] this sounds SO SIP Forum... [18:25:25] we need to say what we can get approved ... whatever that is ... :-) [18:26:24] oh, lord... [18:27:42] is it too late to send something about this to SIPCORE for IETF 78? ... [18:27:45] So IU'm saying "Send what 3261 says", and be generous in what you receive. The generous in what you receive part means you SHOULD not send an error if the user=X is not as you expect [18:27:56] and not wait on that converging, of course... [18:28:38] I can't hear Keith - is it just me? [18:29:05] I can sort of hear him but not great [18:29:06] not working REALLY well. Ever PSTN calls are VoIP over oceans ... [18:36:03] krisztian.kiss@chatmask.com joins the room [18:42:01] I'm having a really hard time understanding Keith. It sounds like he's behind a low-pass filter with a 1000 Hz cutoff. [18:51:38] Hmm sounds like we did it because we could :-) [18:52:23] Cullen: you talking about putting callee caps in reg, or the existence of reg at all? ;-) [18:54:35] is this question solvable in martini? just checking... [18:55:11] Not really. Unless we want to re-hash all of the conversations we had around reg, we aren't going to make any progress. [18:55:26] adam - thank you! [18:58:42] spencer is re-muting, but remained quietly thrilled... [19:03:55] so, what paul is saying about gruu reg-events is true for any "implicit" registration mechanism? [19:43:16] Alan Johnston leaves the room [19:49:53] What conversation is this? What is the goal? [20:18:43] Adam Roach leaves the room [20:39:16] JohnElwell leaves the room [20:50:14] Cullen leaves the room [20:52:34] spencerdawkins leaves the room [21:29:04] brian1lindsay leaves the room [22:08:48] Bernard leaves the room [22:22:12] brian1lindsay joins the room [22:22:35] brian1lindsay leaves the room [22:31:34] brian1lindsay joins the room [23:13:35] brian1lindsay leaves the room