[09:56:17] --- PHB has become available [09:57:26] --- jimsch1 has become available [09:57:34] --- tlyu has become available [10:05:04] --- rhe has become available [10:05:25] --- finn- has become available [10:05:38] --- smashmore has become available [10:05:39] --- finn- has left [10:07:51] --- cdl has become available [10:08:16] --- hartmans@jis.mit.edu/owl has become available [10:14:16] --- ldondeti has become available [10:15:40] --- Chip Sharp has become available [10:17:14] --- washad has become available [10:17:16] --- mrichardson has become available [10:17:19] --- mrichardson has left [10:18:27] --- mrichardson has become available [10:20:17] no jabber scribe? [10:20:22] * mrichardson not in kmart room. [10:24:48] --- yushunwa has become available [10:25:11] is there someone by the mikes that could type? [10:25:22] I'm in the room I'm just not close [10:26:09] Sandra Murphy is up [10:26:19] There aren't slides that I know of [10:26:42] I mean online, she has slides she's talking to [10:26:57] can someone ask Sandra, of her list of attacks, "History of Routing Outages", how many of these would have been mitigated by SIDR. [10:27:14] (I think that the number is very high. I'm in pufi) [10:27:14] --- rvdp has become available [10:28:05] --- rvdp has left [10:32:26] I can try after she finishes talking [10:34:23] she just skipped over a graphic [10:38:54] --- semery has become available [10:39:07] --- richard.barnes has become available [10:39:20] --- lllmartini has become available [10:39:54] --- nico has become available [10:40:33] Ron Bonica [10:40:35] No Slides [10:41:42] --- ginipginob has become available [10:42:02] --- kivinen has become available [10:42:46] --- lixia has become available [10:43:35] What he said boils down to: operators want to be able to change the key on a TCP MD5 session without bouncing the BGP session. [10:44:35] From floor: You can change an MD5 hash on the fly, but it has to be synched. [10:44:55] --- finn- has become available [10:45:57] Next up, David Ward. http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/slides/kmart-4.pdf Issues with existing crypto methods. [10:45:59] --- finn- has left [10:51:12] Four main areas for IGPs: Reply attacks; Key Transitions; Weak Cryptography (e.g. MD5 rather than SHAn); and Group Key Management. Apply in one form or another to both OSPF and IS-IS. [10:52:37] --- lllmartini has left [10:57:24] Next up Eric Rescorla http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/slides/kmart-3.pdf "Key Management .. Dude wait, what?" [10:57:50] Current slide: Current State of Routing Protocol Security [10:59:06] Now "What's a replay attack?" [10:59:12] --- lllmartini has become available [10:59:51] Now: "Defenses against replay attack" [11:01:33] Now: "What's a key management protocol?" [11:02:29] Moving to "Why use a KMP?" [11:04:14] Gregory ??? [11:04:25] Slide: "Deployment Scenarios" [11:05:18] Graphic he's talking to "A trivial unicast key management protocol" [11:07:29] slide: "Key Management for Multicast Groups" [11:09:07] Current Slide: "Key Management with a Group Master" [11:09:26] Now: "Integrity with a Group Key" [11:09:46] Current Slide: "Problems with Group Key Management" [11:10:03] --- lixia has left [11:10:43] Moved on to "Operating without a dedicated master" [11:11:35] Slide: "Dealing with impersonation" [11:12:46] Final Slide: "What problem were we trying to solve again?" 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