[08:56:24] --- matt has joined [08:57:15] --- mattz has joined [08:57:19] woohoo [08:57:37] --- mattz has left [10:06:26] --- matt has left [10:06:55] --- matt has joined [10:25:52] --- matt has joined [11:53:45] --- mattz has joined [11:53:54] --- mattz has left [12:01:16] --- Rik Wade has joined [12:09:38] --- Rik Wade has left [12:10:19] --- Rik Wade has joined [12:10:52] --- mattz has joined [12:24:56] --- Ben has joined [12:25:22] --- markgre has joined [12:29:53] --- martin has joined [12:36:49] --- Loki has joined [12:43:06] --- Lars has joined [12:44:11] I am still committed to following through with reading the spatial comp draft [12:47:39] --- Murtaza has joined [12:50:51] --- Murtaza has left [12:51:05] --- Murtaza has joined [12:53:05] --- Rik Wade has left [12:58:59] --- simon has joined [13:03:21] I've just uploaded Martin's presentation, so if you want to look, reload [13:03:31] thanks, Loki [13:09:17] which presentation is the current one? [13:10:08] --- Ilya Varlashkin has joined [13:17:13] Reporting Metrics: Different Points of View (short update) [13:20:13] thanks Martin [13:23:24] is there any work to address issue that clock might be infuenced by the very delay and its variation that is measured? [13:32:14] is jabber dead? [13:32:52] I think it's still up [13:35:21] to answer your question, I don't have a pointer to anything specific, at least at the tips of my fingers, but that concept is discussed in the IPPM framework (I think?) and the One-Way delay RFC. The concept is certainly known... I just don't have a good reference [13:35:44] (my laptop is used for most of the presentations, so I can't watch all the time) [13:38:56] it was more to the presenter of IPDV/PDV [13:40:10] other question to that topic was that sect 4.3 makes IPDV to be f(delay) only, while it's actually also influenced by clock accuracy at the transmitter, while PDV is truely only f(delay) [13:42:38] sorry I missed the question while Al was talking [13:42:46] that might be better taken up on the list [13:59:32] IMHO packet padding reflection would open the protocol to all sorts of abuse [13:59:59] .... or vendor specific extension breaking inter-operability [14:13:44] --- Murtaza has left [14:20:51] --- Ben has left [14:23:52] --- Lars has left [14:24:05] --- martin has left [14:25:12] --- Loki has left [15:22:51] --- Ben has joined [15:24:29] --- martin has joined [15:31:55] --- badra has joined [15:32:07] --- badra has left [15:35:49] --- Lars has joined [15:42:17] --- Ben has left [16:01:04] --- Lars has left [16:46:30] --- martin has left